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From: Nathan O'Brien
Subject: Website update
Date: 26 Oct 1998 04:51:16
Message: <3634437D.4E74CB6D@no13.net>
Hi all.

Ive just updated my website with 3 new image galleries.

Gallery 3. Landscapes made with Terragen
Gallery 4. Architectural projects rendered with POV
Gallery 5. Image series from a single model. POV.

Plus I've added 4 more images to Gallery 1. IRTC Entries. POV.

All images are available full size for your viewing pleasure.

-- 
regards

Nathan O'Brien
no1### [at] no13net
http://www.no13.net


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From: Jon A  Cruz
Subject: Re: Website update
Date: 11 Dec 1999 21:52:32
Message: <38530DCA.16DEA65A@geocities.com>
Rune wrote:

> Alan Kong wrote:
> >On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 00:47:59 +0100, "Rune" <run### [at] inamecom>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>Argh! This message was not supposed to end up here!
> >
> >  Why not cancel your original post?
>
> Hmm, in my newsreader (Outlook Express) I see the message I posted as a
> reply to a message posted by Nathan O'Brien in 1998 which had the same
> subject line. That was not intended.
>
> Do you see the message the same way, or do you see it as a independent
> message?
>
> I'll try to cancel the message anyway.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Rune

I think we saw it as just a stand-alone post.

MS Outlook is
HOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIBBBBBBBBBBBLLLLLLLLLLLYYYYYYYYYYY
brain-damaged about all sorts of things. That, along with it's alter-ego
MSIE.

In this case, it sounds like they ignored the RFC's and such and threaded
on just the subject string instead of following the 'References:' header
lines.

Sounds very similar to the behavior of MSIE when it gets a HTTP transfer
with a MIME-Type, but with a "file extension" that the OS has
registered...

--
"My new computer's got the clocks, it rocks
But it was obsolete before I opened the box" - W.A.Y.


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Website update
Date: 11 Dec 1999 22:16:42
Message: <386436D7.47527FC1@pacbell.net>
> Is my message "website update" successfully canceled now?
It cancelled correctly.


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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: Website update
Date: 13 Dec 1999 08:46:36
Message: <3854f8bc@news.povray.org>
On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 18:51:55 -0800, Jon A. Cruz wrote:
>I think we saw it as just a stand-alone post.
>
>MS Outlook is
>HOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIBBBBBBBBBBBLLLLLLLLLLLYYYYYYYYYYY
>brain-damaged about all sorts of things. That, along with it's alter-ego
>MSIE.
>
>In this case, it sounds like they ignored the RFC's and such and threaded
>on just the subject string instead of following the 'References:' header
>lines.

Agent is broken this way too.  It also loses threading when someone 
changes the subject line, and it forces one to read crossposts in 
every group.  If it weren't for the ability to look up messages by 
message-id, I'd think they'd never heard of them.

-- 
These are my opinions.  I do NOT speak for the POV-Team.
The superpatch: http://www2.fwi.com/~parkerr/superpatch/
My other stuff: http://www2.fwi.com/~parkerr/traces.html


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From: Peter Popov
Subject: Re: Website update
Date: 13 Dec 1999 16:42:53
Message: <SmZVOEkDOxBvUs7bN9nD94of6+tZ@4ax.com>
On 13 Dec 1999 08:46:36 -0500, ron### [at] povrayorg (Ron Parker)
wrote:

>Agent is broken this way too.  It also loses threading when someone 
>changes the subject line, and it forces one to read crossposts in 
>every group.  If it weren't for the ability to look up messages by 
>message-id, I'd think they'd never heard of them.

Ron, will you please re-read the docs on these two specific option
tabs:

Group->Default Properties->Crossposts tab

and

Options->General Preferences->Message List tab

I think it will work for you. It does for me.


Peter Popov
pet### [at] usanet
ICQ: 15002700


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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: Website update
Date: 13 Dec 1999 16:50:00
Message: <38556a08@news.povray.org>
>Ron, will you please re-read the docs on these two specific option
>tabs:

I may be using an old version of Agent, from back when they said they
had those features but they didn't actually work.  I'll check my 
settings again when I get home.

-- 
These are my opinions.  I do NOT speak for the POV-Team.
The superpatch: http://www2.fwi.com/~parkerr/superpatch/
My other stuff: http://www2.fwi.com/~parkerr/traces.html


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From: Alan Kong
Subject: Re: Website update
Date: 13 Dec 1999 20:29:23
Message: <o27b5soj41eujdav8cl5tr0e0jq9dpaup3@4ax.com>
On 13 Dec 1999 16:50:00 -0500, ron### [at] povrayorg (Ron Parker) wrote:

>I may be using an old version of Agent, from back when they said they
>had those features but they didn't actually work.  I'll check my 
>settings again when I get home.

  Ron, I used to have my group Properties set to skip the header if it
had already been retrieved in another group. I actually changed it back
to be able to see problematic crossposting from visitors. Right-click on
any group folder to set Properties.

-- 
Alan - ako### [at] povrayorg - a k o n g <at> p o v r a y <dot> o r g
http://www.povray.org - Home of the Persistence of Vision Ray Tracer


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From: Peter Popov
Subject: Re: Website update
Date: 14 Dec 1999 01:25:10
Message: <hOJVOBkEdU55V04KpxJ3jZahVsMr@4ax.com>
On Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:29:30 -0800, Alan Kong
<ako### [at] povrayNO-SPAMorg> wrote:

>On 13 Dec 1999 16:50:00 -0500, ron### [at] povrayorg (Ron Parker) wrote:
>
>>I may be using an old version of Agent, from back when they said they
>>had those features but they didn't actually work.  I'll check my 
>>settings again when I get home.
>
>  Ron, I used to have my group Properties set to skip the header if it
>had already been retrieved in another group. I actually changed it back
>to be able to see problematic crossposting from visitors. Right-click on
>any group folder to set Properties.

Better yet, set them globally (there are a lot of groups to think
about). The "Start new thread when subject changes" checkbox might be
what's causing you trouble, as well as the "Enable threading by
subject" which, as I understand the help file, overrides the
Reference: header field threading.


Peter Popov
pet### [at] usanet
ICQ: 15002700


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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: Website update
Date: 14 Dec 1999 09:20:51
Message: <38565243@news.povray.org>
In article <38530DCA.16DEA65A@geocities.com> , "Jon A. Cruz" 
<jon### [at] geocitiescom> wrote:

> I think we saw it as just a stand-alone post.
>
> MS Outlook is
> HOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIBBBBBBBBBBBLLLLLLLLLLLYYYYYYYYYYY
> brain-damaged about all sorts of things. That, along with it's alter-ego
> MSIE.
>
> In this case, it sounds like they ignored the RFC's and such and threaded
> on just the subject string instead of following the 'References:' header
> lines.

Be happy! The Outlook Express 5.0 for Mac OS version has the threading
feature removed (!!!) because "newsgroups are dead"!  So you better hold on
to your current Outlook Express version as long as the Windows version still
has this feature!


       Thorsten


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