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From: Tony[B]
Subject: Re: Time for eBooks?
Date: 4 Feb 2002 21:12:53
Message: <3c5f3fa5@news.povray.org>
> Real books don't get downloaded once and
> then distributed illegally. end of argument really.

I beg to differ. I've got a friend who downloads tons of RL books like that.
They scan, OCR, and PDF them. I don't know how they have so much patience.
They do a very good job too.


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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: Time for eBooks?
Date: 5 Feb 2002 06:39:11
Message: <3c5fc45f$1@news.povray.org>
"Dearmad" <dea### [at] applesnakenet> wrote in message
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> No thank you.  Yuck to all e-options as the *only* option.  If
> packaged in *addition* to a book made of dead tree parts, that
> would be fine, but I want trees slaughtered so I can hold it in
> my hands and flip the pages.
>

"This book is made of 100% recycled trees"

The only thing I find e-books tolerable for is when I know the book well and
just want to search for something in particular.


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From: Bill DeWitt
Subject: Re: Time for eBooks?
Date: 5 Feb 2002 07:54:56
Message: <3c5fd620@news.povray.org>
"Tom Melly" <tom### [at] tomandlucouk> wrote :
>
> "This book is made of 100% recycled trees"
>
> The only thing I find e-books tolerable for is when I know the book well
and
> just want to search for something in particular.

    That's what I thought until I started using them regularly. While they
will never replace paper for me, I have acquired a taste for reading on the
screen. I choose a large font and readjust my chair for a more relaxed
position and move my keyboard so that I can reach the page-down key from
where my arm naturally lays...


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From: Tony[B]
Subject: Re: Time for eBooks?
Date: 5 Feb 2002 08:30:43
Message: <3c5fde83@news.povray.org>
I can't wait till that e-ink technology really takes off.

Sure will be great to carry around a couple books in one "page". :)


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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: Time for eBooks?
Date: 5 Feb 2002 09:49:30
Message: <3c5ff0fa@news.povray.org>
"Bill DeWitt" <bde### [at] cflrrcom> wrote in message
news:3c5fd620@news.povray.org...
>
>     That's what I thought until I started using them regularly. While they
> will never replace paper for me, I have acquired a taste for reading on the
> screen. I choose a large font and readjust my chair for a more relaxed
> position and move my keyboard so that I can reach the page-down key from
> where my arm naturally lays...
>

Well, I do that for kareoke... I dunno, it just seems that e-books, with current
technology, and despite the obvious advantages, are, ergonomically, a step
backwards*.

* or is that a step sideways? "Backwards" implies a return to something
abandoned - ancient egyptian lcd's. No, "sideways" is no good, since it isn't
negative. Ah, phooey.


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From: Bill DeWitt
Subject: Re: Time for eBooks?
Date: 5 Feb 2002 13:04:10
Message: <3c601e9a$1@news.povray.org>
"Tom Melly" <tom### [at] tomandlucouk> wrote in message
news:3c5ff0fa@news.povray.org...
> "Bill DeWitt" <bde### [at] cflrrcom> wrote in message
> news:3c5fd620@news.povray.org...
> >
> >     That's what I thought until I started using them regularly. While
they
> > will never replace paper for me, I have acquired a taste for reading on
the
> > screen. I choose a large font and readjust my chair for a more relaxed
> > position and move my keyboard so that I can reach the page-down key from
> > where my arm naturally lays...
> >
>
> Well, I do that for kareoke... I dunno, it just seems that e-books, with
current
> technology, and despite the obvious advantages, are, ergonomically, a step
> backwards*.

    Ergonomically?!?! I have a -much- better posture and can read for
a -much- longer time when I set up here to read something as compared to a
book. Books require odd positioning, props and pillows, arms that fall
asleep, weird lights that hang off the bedposts on little cranes....

    Give me a large screen and an arm rest anytime.

    O course, my lovely wife hates it when I bring the large screen to bed
with me so I won't be going full e-book any time soon.


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Time for eBooks?
Date: 5 Feb 2002 18:16:58
Message: <3C6067D6.2030803@aol.com>
Forgive my ignorence, I have never used an eBook.  It would seem that 
one possible advantage would be a flexible ability to update 
information.  Is that part of the eBook model?
-Jim


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From: Bill DeWitt
Subject: Re: Time for eBooks?
Date: 5 Feb 2002 18:38:43
Message: <3c606d03$1@news.povray.org>
"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
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>
>
> Forgive my ignorence, I have never used an eBook.  It would seem that
> one possible advantage would be a flexible ability to update
> information.  Is that part of the eBook model?

    Should be, but mostly isn't.

    I think that will change in a year or two as authors find that they need
to keep adding value to keep attracting readers.


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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: Time for eBooks?
Date: 7 Feb 2002 10:08:42
Message: <3c62987a$1@news.povray.org>
"Bill DeWitt" <bde### [at] cflrrcom> wrote in message
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>
>     Ergonomically?!?! I have a -much- better posture and can read for
> a -much- longer time when I set up here to read something as compared to a
> book. Books require odd positioning, props and pillows, arms that fall
> asleep, weird lights that hang off the bedposts on little cranes....
>

Well, "ergonomically" was really the wrong word - about the only place I never
read a book is in front of the computer (except for IT reference). I guess
reading a book on something like a Palm might be okay, but I think I'd miss the
tactile quality of a paperback. Bottom line, most places I read books are not
really suitable, in terms of comfort or convenience, for a monitor.

>     Give me a large screen and an arm rest anytime.
>
>     O course, my lovely wife hates it when I bring the large screen to bed
> with me so I won't be going full e-book any time soon.
>

Doesn't the 'orrible one mind? ;)


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From: Bill DeWitt
Subject: Re: Time for eBooks?
Date: 7 Feb 2002 10:18:20
Message: <3c629abc@news.povray.org>
"Tom Melly" <tom### [at] tomandlucouk> wrote :
>
> but I think I'd miss the
> tactile quality of a paperback.

    I think we all agree on that. But as I said, there are advantages once
you get used to the lack of that quality that make up for the loss in many
cases.

> Doesn't the 'orrible one mind? ;)

    Um... do you mean the cat? She really misses trying to mark the edge of
my book and attempting to lay on it while I read it. Like I said, we all
agree that the tactile quality is important.


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