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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: 2nd Post with Meaning :)
Date: 4 Feb 2002 14:08:35
Message: <slrna5tn1l.bqv.ron.parker@fwi.com>
On Mon, 4 Feb 2002 16:44:30 +0000, Mike Williams wrote:
> The macro was quite tricky to get just right, so these days, it might be
> easier to use a fairly beefy PC and (temporarily) glue all the files
> together for the final pagination and indexing.

No need.  Word has had the concept of a "master document" that links to
subdocuments for some time now.

The point isn't whether Word is powerful enough to do the job; the point is
that Word is just plain not available to a lot of people, and the format is
baroque and bizarre and very, very proprietary.  However, as I don't plan 
to be involved in any book projects (having far too much on my plate as it 
is, and not having anything worthwhile to share anyway) my opinion really
doesn't matter.  I merely suggested DocBook because it works for at least
one major and well-respected publisher of technical books.

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From: Jakub Hegenbart
Subject: Re: 2nd Post with Meaning :)
Date: 5 Feb 2002 17:58:06
Message: <3c60637e$1@news.povray.org>
Heeey! Im working for Laser-Books ( a Czech SF publisher) - as a translator.
Currently, I'm working on M.J. Friedman's "A Call to Darkness." Guess what -
for nearly 10 years, they publish all their books using LaTEX and ASCII
editor only - under DOS. There are several hudnreds of their titles out
there. It WORKS!!!


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> "Ken" <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
> news:3C5C8CE2.A9000EE0@pacbell.net...
> >
> >
> > Ken wrote:
> >
> > > >   Btw, LaTeX is not only a geeks' tool. It's really used quite a lot
> for
> > > > serious publications (specially scientific ones).
> > >
> > > Were it not for the rare mention of it here in the news groups I would
> > > have never heard of it.
> >
> > I just got back home from a major software retailer and they neither
> > carry nor have ever heard of LaTeX.
>
>     I've heard of it, but I have never heard of any serious writer who
uses
> it for final product. But then, I mostly know about the habits of fiction
> writers, not technical writers.
>
>


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From: Jakub Hegenbart
Subject: Re: 2nd Post with Meaning :)
Date: 5 Feb 2002 18:00:02
Message: <3c6063f2@news.povray.org>
Has YOUR father ever raytraced? Pche...

    Kyosuke

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>
> Warp wrote:
> >
> > Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:
> > : I just got back home from a major software retailer and they neither
> > : carry nor have ever heard of LaTeX.
> >
> >   It's clear that you people don't have an academic background.
>
> Has your father ever used LaTeX?
>
> --
> Ken Tyler


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: 2nd Post with Meaning :)
Date: 5 Feb 2002 21:58:19
Message: <3C609C57.67A0805E@pacbell.net>
Jakub Hegenbart wrote:
> 
> Has YOUR father ever raytraced? Pche...

I taught him how over the Chrismas holidays. He is now using it to
create different lathe designs in 3D before commiting expensive
hardwoods to his shop lathe. He is rather pleased about the whole
thing at the moment.

Dad has never used LaTeX for word processing either.

-- 
Ken Tyler


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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: 2nd Post with Meaning :)
Date: 5 Feb 2002 22:08:49
Message: <slrna617i5.3iv.ron.parker@fwi.com>
On Tue, 05 Feb 2002 19:00:39 -0800, Ken wrote:
> Dad has never used LaTeX for word processing either.

Well, duh!  It's not a word processor, it's a typesetter.

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_)*(_1-_)#end#macro Z(_1 _ __)union{P(_)P(-_)R(y-z-1_)translate.1*_1-y*8pigment{
rgb<S(7)S(5)S(3)>}}#if(_1)Z(_1-__,_,__)#end#end Z(10x*-2,.2)camera{rotate x*90}


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: 2nd Post with Meaning :)
Date: 5 Feb 2002 22:13:17
Message: <3C609FD9.9D9FA8CC@pacbell.net>
Ron Parker wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 05 Feb 2002 19:00:39 -0800, Ken wrote:
> > Dad has never used LaTeX for word processing either.
> 
> Well, duh!  It's not a word processor, it's a typesetter.

He ain't used it for that neitherer.

-- 
Ken Tyler


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From: Chris Cason
Subject: Re: 2nd Post with Meaning :)
Date: 8 Feb 2002 23:25:39
Message: <3c64a4c3@news.povray.org>
"Tom Galvin" <tom### [at] nospamdataforgecom> wrote in message
news:3c5cd5c9$1@news.povray.org...
>     1) Intro to POV (like an update of raytracing creations).
>     2) POV animation
>     3) POV Hardcore( see the test) Macro madness?
>     4) 3rd party Tools for use with POV(Moray, Rhino, Poser...)

I have sometimes wondered if it would be worthwhile to publish a book in parts,
like those serialized ones we sometimes see on television. It's basically a
limited-run magazine, with perhaps 12 editions published one month apart, each
available via subscription or via the local newsagency (sorry, don't know the
US term, a place that you can buy lost of newspapers and magazines but doesn't
generally sell books).

The advantage of that is that the cost can be incremental, the format is larger
(e.g. normal magazine size), the printing is full-color, they lay flat, and
it allows a user to purchase as his/her own pace (unless they subscribe). Plus
you can buy a special binder that's designed to collect them all together.

-- Chris


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From: Chris Cason
Subject: Re: 2nd Post with Meaning :)
Date: 8 Feb 2002 23:45:29
Message: <3c64a969@news.povray.org>
"Tom Galvin" <tom### [at] nospamdataforgecom> wrote in message
news:3c5cd5c9$1@news.povray.org...
>     1) Intro to POV (like an update of raytracing creations).
>     2) POV animation
>     3) POV Hardcore( see the test) Macro madness?
>     4) 3rd party Tools for use with POV(Moray, Rhino, Poser...)

5) Achieving photorealism with POV-Ray.


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From: Max Acquafresca
Subject: Re: 2nd Post with Meaning :)
Date: 29 Apr 2002 08:24:18
Message: <3ccd3b72@news.povray.org>
"Mitchell Waite" <mit### [at] dnaicom> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:3c5c1984$1@news.povray.org...

> Just to bring a little reality back to the post, 98% of all computer books
> today are written in Word.
...
> them into a DTP program like Quark or Pagemaker. And finally using Word
> makes it easy to convert to an acrobat PDF file.

I found this discussion only today...
I agree with you: tech books about IT are written mostly in Word and then
processed in Quark XPress, at least in Italy where I live and work. This
helps also the PDF conversion, since XPress has a PDF export filter based on
Adobe Acrobat Distiller that converts a document in a click.
I'm writing now a book about POV-Ray that hopefully will be out before this
summer, and I'll do the final layout in Quark XPress on a Mac.
My book isn't as deep as yours, just 448 pages with a 32 color pages block,
and its main idea is to help Italian people that cannot speak any language
but Italian to use POV-Ray. It will be published by an important Italian
publisher (Gruppo Editoriale Futura-Jackson Libri) and the target is all the
people with no ray-tracing experience at all.

Bye!

Max Acquafresca


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From: Fidel Viegas
Subject: Re: 2nd Post with Meaning :)
Date: 12 May 2005 12:03:58
Message: <42837e6e@news.povray.org>
Mitchell Waite wrote:
> I am the second poster and in an attempt to show that this list will have
> value, I actually have something to say <wink>.
> 
> We are starting a new POV Ray book and it is shaping up to be the end all,
> be all, best ever book on POV Ray. It will be in (ta da) full color, and (I
> hope) fully reviewed and sanctioned by the POV Ray team. The book will be
> between 700 and 1000 pages long, and will not compete with but rather will
> enchance the documentation. A PDF version of it will be available as well.
> 
> If you are interested in earning some royalty off all the fun you have had
> with this program, please email me at mit### [at] dnaicom. I will sign you up
> to our discussion list, send our outline and help you determine what areas
> you would like to contribute to.
> 
> Sincerely
> 
> Mitch Waite
> Publisher of the Very First POV Ray book Ray Tracing Creations
> 
> Mitch Waite Group
> Agent, Author, Publisher, Packager
> From How to Wow
> www.mitchwaite.com
> mit### [at] mitchwaitecom
> 415 381 0188
> 
> 
Hey, what happened to this very first povray book?

Have you given up?


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