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On 01/10/2018 11:28, Ton wrote:
> "Bald Eagle" <cre### [at] netscape net> wrote:
>> "Ton" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
>>> You all have big plans for me....
>>
>> Well as the future Royal Architect and Master Ship Builder for the His Most
>> Exalted Majesty, the Lord High Emperor of POV-Ray, the rest of us support you
>> completely.
>>
>> We have a PAC and a 501.c3 set up, PR and Marketing are working on your wardrobe
>> and campaign slogan, and instead of those cheap flimsy plastic political signs,
>> we're going with flat-screen monitors with a raytraced image, for better name
>> reconition.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ton! Ton! Ton!
>
> Thanks Bald Eagle, I'm highly honored!
> As Royal Architect and Master Ship Builder I've been working the last week on
> the deck cranes.
Now you are talking my language. I've spent years working on deck
cranes' SWL equipment. :)
> Modesty does not allow me to say that I'm pleased with the
> result, so I won't say that I am quite pleased with the result.
>
I must admit that it is not bad. ;)
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Regards
Stephen
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> I do not want to give you undue delusions (nor speaking of vanity, God
> forbid) about your merits as a designer, so I wont tell you that you did
> a perfect job.
Bedankt Thomas.
> Now you are talking my language. I've spent years working on deck
> cranes' SWL equipment. :)
There are more cranes coming, Stephen, on the well decks.
It's about three weeks since I've posted progress. I've not been idle, working
on the forecastle and aft- (or poop-)deck. A lot of smaller things.
I've also added the C-deck, and I am now thinking of a nice easy way to create
the hull between B-deck and C-deck. The two forward sections are polygons, and
the data for them
are located in arrays. So I want to create a loop, iterating over the vertices,
and create
triangles along the way. I'm afraid the normal vectors will require a bit of
math (vcross
and vnormalize come to mind). Interesting days ahead!
Here's the latest render of the bow:
Cheers
Ton.
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On 20-10-2018 2:46, Ton wrote:
> It's about three weeks since I've posted progress. I've not been idle, working
> on the forecastle and aft- (or poop-)deck. A lot of smaller things.
> I've also added the C-deck, and I am now thinking of a nice easy way to create
> the hull between B-deck and C-deck. The two forward sections are polygons, and
> the data for them
> are located in arrays. So I want to create a loop, iterating over the vertices,
> and create
> triangles along the way. I'm afraid the normal vectors will require a bit of
> math (vcross
> and vnormalize come to mind). Interesting days ahead!
That is going to be interesting. It is years ago that I mused about ship
hulls and the way to make them in POV. I abandoned at that time, turning
instead to the use of: http://www.delftship.net/ which does an excellent
job.
In a simple manner, I did some triangle mesh building in my Gancaloon
series years ago (I need to revisit one day!). I enjoyed to do that and
I learned a lot from the process. So, Do not let us wait for too long ;-)
> Here's the latest render of the bow:
>
Great stuff!
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Thomas
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Here is the result of playing around with vectors and angles.
Looks like a nice round backside.....
Cheers
Ton.
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On 28-10-2018 7:38, Ton wrote:
> Here is the result of playing around with vectors and angles.
> Looks like a nice round backside.....
>
Yes. There still seems to be a hint of angles in the curve though. Could
to be solved with a bit higher resolution of the mesh.
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Thomas
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On 28/10/2018 07:28, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 28-10-2018 7:38, Ton wrote:
>> Here is the result of playing around with vectors and angles.
>> Looks like a nice round backside.....
>>
I need to speak sternly. :-)
>
> Yes. There still seems to be a hint of angles in the curve though. Could
> to be solved with a bit higher resolution of the mesh.
>
Or an additional control point near the centre line. If it is a spline.
The ship is coming along. I can almost smell the coal fired boilers. :-)
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Stephen
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You could make a "stealth Titanic", full of angles and straight areas in
between. ;-)
Don't take me serious.
But I have another proposal, on the serious side:
if you like the idea, I could give you the source code for my 1850s
river paddle-wheel steamboat, and you can place it beside your Titanic.
I use 1 unit as 1 meter.
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http://www.avg.com
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On 10/28/18 3:28 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 28-10-2018 7:38, Ton wrote:
>> Here is the result of playing around with vectors and angles.
>> Looks like a nice round backside.....
>>
>
> Yes. There still seems to be a hint of angles in the curve though. Could
> to be solved with a bit higher resolution of the mesh.
>
I thought it actually looked more natural. They *were* bending and
riveting steel.
I can only find one picture of the stern (lots of drawings of it in the
air though...)
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/120405051718-titanic-ship-cobh-horizontal-large-gallery.jpg
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dik
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On 29-10-2018 7:36, dick balaska wrote:
> On 10/28/18 3:28 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 28-10-2018 7:38, Ton wrote:
>>> Here is the result of playing around with vectors and angles.
>>> Looks like a nice round backside.....
>>>
>>
>> Yes. There still seems to be a hint of angles in the curve though. Could
>> to be solved with a bit higher resolution of the mesh.
>>
>
> I thought it actually looked more natural. They *were* bending and
> riveting steel.
That is indeed true. Lets wait for the completed hull before assembling
the jury again. ;-)
>
> I can only find one picture of the stern (lots of drawings of it in the
> air though...)
>
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/120405051718-titanic-ship-cobh-horizontal-large-gallery.jpg
>
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Thomas
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On 29/10/2018 07:44, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 29-10-2018 7:36, dick balaska wrote:
>> On 10/28/18 3:28 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>> On 28-10-2018 7:38, Ton wrote:
>>>> Here is the result of playing around with vectors and angles.
>>>> Looks like a nice round backside.....
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes. There still seems to be a hint of angles in the curve though. Could
>>> to be solved with a bit higher resolution of the mesh.
>>>
>>
>> riveting steel.
>
> That is indeed true. Lets wait for the completed hull before assembling
> the jury again. ;-)
>
Bear in mind that it is the superstructure not the hull. I would expect
the steel plates to be cut and shaped to a wooden pattern built by
carpenters from drawings for each part.
If you want an idea of what shipbuilding was like 30 years later. Look
https://tinyurl.com/y88hd9co
>>
>> I can only find one picture of the stern (lots of drawings of it in the
>> air though...)
>>
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/120405051718-titanic-ship-cobh-horizontal-large-gallery.jpg
>>
>>
>
>
Nice find. :)
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Stephen
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