On 4-3-2016 19:01, clipka wrote:
>> Now everyone's blaming gluten, so wheat's gotta go.  (Anyone taking bets?)
>
> You're gonna fart more frequently? :P
>

It is crazy. Because about 0.6 percent of population has a gluten 
problem, everybody needs to stop eating it?

Nowadays, eating is not about... eating (and enjoying it btw) it is 
about ingesting certain chemical compounds and avoiding others, if one 
believes the /vox populi/.

-- 
Thomas

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Am 05.03.2016 um 10:07 schrieb Thomas de Groot:
> On 4-3-2016 19:01, clipka wrote:
>>> Now everyone's blaming gluten, so wheat's gotta go.  (Anyone taking
>>> bets?)
>>
>> You're gonna fart more frequently? :P
>>
> 
> It is crazy. Because about 0.6 percent of population has a gluten
> problem, everybody needs to stop eating it?

It could be worse.

Because a fraction of the population had a hypothyreosis problem (*),
everybody needed to /start/ eating iodine a few decades ago.

Now we have portions of the population who have a _hyperthyreosis_
problem, and they _cannot stop_ eating iodine because there's no
low-iodine food available anymore.

But there's always more money to be made in selling augmented stuff
(provided you can get the propaganda rolling) than there is in selling
the conventional, so we all need to eat iodine.

(*The incidence of hyperthyreosis and its link to lack of iodine
happened to have been discovered shortly after the Chernobyl nuclear
catastrophe proved less catastrophic to Europe than feared, and the
medical industry was left with an excess production of iodine
supplements. But I guess the timing was just a coincidence...)


Same with gluten-free food: It's augmented, so there's more money to be
made with it than with conventional food, so we all need to eat it.


> Nowadays, eating is not about... eating (and enjoying it btw) it is
> about ingesting certain chemical compounds and avoiding others, if one
> believes the /vox populi/.

/vox propagandi/ would be more to the point.

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> I would make it as a difference, and add plenty random-sized spheres as
> differences to that area where the bread is cut. But true - there are
> several good ways to make a healthy bread. i will follow this thread. :-)

The problem with difference is then how do you manage to texture it ?
Thanks for following :-)

> Are you going to add a glass or bowl with honey beside it, another with
> butter?

There will be other elements in the scene, but no butter, no honey. You'll see
that in this forum, if I succeed in completing it !!

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I thought of crackle pattern too and tried it but wasn't satisfied with the
result. But it may be that I haven't used it in a suitable manner.

clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
> Am 05.03.2016 um 06:07 schrieb Sven Littkowski:
> > Maybe there is cottage cheese on it..?
> >
> > I would make it as a difference, and add plenty random-sized spheres as
> > differences to that area where the bread is cut. But true - there are
> > several good ways to make a healthy bread. i will follow this thread. :-)
>
> I suspect crackle pattern would be the best basis; it'll need some
> elaborate warping though, to change the shape of the holes near the crust.

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On 5-3-2016 10:52, clipka wrote:
> Am 05.03.2016 um 10:07 schrieb Thomas de Groot:
>> On 4-3-2016 19:01, clipka wrote:
>>>> Now everyone's blaming gluten, so wheat's gotta go.  (Anyone taking
>>>> bets?)
>>>
>>> You're gonna fart more frequently? :P
>>>
>>
>> It is crazy. Because about 0.6 percent of population has a gluten
>> problem, everybody needs to stop eating it?
>
> It could be worse.
>
> Because a fraction of the population had a hypothyreosis problem (*),
> everybody needed to /start/ eating iodine a few decades ago.
>
[...]

Yes, there is that too.

>
>
> Same with gluten-free food: It's augmented, so there's more money to be
> made with it than with conventional food, so we all need to eat it.

Absolutely.

>
>
>> Nowadays, eating is not about... eating (and enjoying it btw) it is
>> about ingesting certain chemical compounds and avoiding others, if one
>> believes the /vox populi/.
>
> /vox propagandi/ would be more to the point.
>

It is a clever mixture of both I guess and who starts what is often 
difficult to reconstruct. Mostly /propagandi/ probably.

-- 
Thomas

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Am 05.03.2016 um 13:00 schrieb BayashiPascal:

> There will be other elements in the scene, but no butter, no honey. You'll see
> that in this forum, if I succeed in completing it !!

Sounds like we /will/ see some water.

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Place your bets ! ;-)


clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
> Am 05.03.2016 um 13:00 schrieb BayashiPascal:
>
> > There will be other elements in the scene, but no butter, no honey. You'll see
> > that in this forum, if I succeed in completing it !!
>
> Sounds like we /will/ see some water.

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>
> Same with gluten-free food: It's augmented, so there's more money to be
> made with it than with conventional food, so we all need to eat it.
>
>

Gluten free is NOT augmented but *reduced* food.
Gluten, a protein, is removed from the weat. There is nothing added, 
just a removed nutrient.

Similarly, with cholesterol. Cholesterol free water, fruit juices and 
breveages never contain any, but adding "cholesterol free" allow hiking 
the price obsenely. Trying to controll your cholesterol level by 
controlling what you heat is totaly futile, and has been demonstrated in 
the late 50's, early 60's, then explained before 1965.
You'd need to eat over 20 Kg of butter with each meal to marginaly 
increase your blood cholesterol level.

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> Am 05.03.2016 um 06:16 schrieb Sven Littkowski:
>> I once tried to suggest to our German government, to implement a Fat
>> tax:
> ...
>> But the politicians answered, such a fat tax would be unfair to the few
>> slim persons who need to eat more fat in order to look normal...
>
> And rightly so.
>
> I personally know someone who has been struggling all his life to /gain/
> weight, despite a surprisingly sugar-rich diet. I'm sure there are
> people out there who are in the same situation despite a fat-rich diet.
>
> Also, it would address a non-issue anyway. In general, we're far, far
> away from American obesity -- and the portion of our population who
> /are/ outright obese wouldn't be impressed by a fat tax /at all/.
>

It's more about how MUCH you eat and your activity level.
Also, in the USA, some obese peoples feel hunger when they are actualy 
thirsty. There is a signal mixup.

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Am 06.03.2016 um 19:38 schrieb Alain:

> 
>> Same with gluten-free food: It's augmented, so there's more money to be
>> made with it than with conventional food, so we all need to eat it.
> 
> Gluten free is NOT augmented but *reduced* food.
> Gluten, a protein, is removed from the weat. There is nothing added,
> just a removed nutrient.

It was a poor choice of words. Call it "modified", "tampered with" or
whatever.

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