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From: Norbert Kern
Subject: "near sunset"
Date: 1 Jan 2016 10:15:01
Message: <web.56869749c75c2d3642960c560@news.povray.org>
Hi,

finally I completed a new image (for the last TINA CHeP round) -
http://www.tc-rtc.co.uk/imagenewdisplay/stills/index673.html .

Norbert Kern


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: "near sunset"
Date: 1 Jan 2016 13:33:51
Message: <5686c68f$1@news.povray.org>
Am 01.01.2016 um 16:13 schrieb Norbert Kern:

> finally I completed a new image (for the last TINA CHeP round) -
> http://www.tc-rtc.co.uk/imagenewdisplay/stills/index673.html .

Hollycrap!

I just got me a new favorite wallpaper. A fat thank you, and a happy new
year!


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From: Norbert Kern
Subject: Re: "near sunset"
Date: 2 Jan 2016 12:15:00
Message: <web.568804f1511c90a3a897dff90@news.povray.org>
clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:

> Hollycrap!
>
> I just got me a new favorite wallpaper. A fat thank you, and a happy new
> year!



Many thanks for your compliment and a happy new year for you.


Norbert


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: "near sunset"
Date: 3 Jan 2016 02:53:41
Message: <5688d385$1@news.povray.org>
On 1-1-2016 16:13, Norbert Kern wrote:
> Hi,
>
> finally I completed a new image (for the last TINA CHeP round) -
> http://www.tc-rtc.co.uk/imagenewdisplay/stills/index673.html .
>
> Norbert Kern
>

A beauty!

-- 
Thomas


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From: Norbert Kern
Subject: Re: "near sunset"
Date: 3 Jan 2016 12:20:02
Message: <web.568957db511c90a39db159b50@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:

> A beauty!
>
> --
> Thomas


Thanks Thomas,

yeah - I've to admit, the image isn't that bad.

Imho there are some points worth mentioning (look at the image detail):

- extreme light color (srgb <2.42,1.33,0.07> - sky color sums up to grey)
- subsurface lighting for the owl
- small normals for the snow
- downsizing from a 8000x4500 pixel render

the last three points are hardly visible, but contribute much to the "beauty".

Norbert


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: "near sunset"
Date: 3 Jan 2016 15:09:10
Message: <56897fe6$1@news.povray.org>
Am 03.01.2016 um 18:18 schrieb Norbert Kern:

> yeah - I've to admit, the image isn't that bad.

That's quite an understatement.

> Imho there are some points worth mentioning (look at the image detail):
> 
> - extreme light color (srgb <2.42,1.33,0.07> - sky color sums up to grey)

Yes, the contrast between "warm" and "cold" illumination certainly
contributes a lot to the scene.

> - subsurface lighting for the owl

Are you sure you mean the owl, not the foreground snow?


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From: Norbert Kern
Subject: Re: "near sunset"
Date: 3 Jan 2016 16:00:00
Message: <web.56898bbe511c90a39db159b50@news.povray.org>
clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
> Am 03.01.2016 um 18:18 schrieb Norbert Kern:

> > - subsurface lighting for the owl
>
> Are you sure you mean the owl, not the foreground snow?


oh yes - this is what I meant with the small normals. At certain lighting
situations it fakes a bit SSLT (in combination with area light).
Furthermore there were visible artifacts at the owl even with acceptable
settings (radiosity on samples 50, 200).

Personally I've made good experiences with a JVP approach
(http://www.ignorancia.org/en/index.php?page=a-box-of-oranges). Probably I'll
use this method somewhere in the future as an excellent compromise between speed
and quality.


Norbert


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From: Dick Balaska
Subject: Re: "near sunset"
Date: 6 Jan 2016 01:06:28
Message: <MPG.30f678f88d501af6989696@news.povray.org>
In article <web.56869749c75c2d3642960c560@news.povray.org>, norbert-
wer### [at] t-onlinede says...
> 
> Hi,

yes, stunning image. The sun on the landscape is very photorealistic. 
Only the owl/tree give it away to me.

*And* I learned that there's an 8-core i7 (that's a year old already).  
Only a thousand bucks.  Hmm...


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From: Norbert Kern
Subject: Re: "near sunset"
Date: 6 Jan 2016 15:45:00
Message: <web.568d7cb0511c90a3dea48fc40@news.povray.org>
Dick Balaska <dic### [at] buckosoftcom> wrote:

> yes, stunning image. The sun on the landscape is very photorealistic.
> Only the owl/tree give it away to me.


I know, what you mean...


> *And* I learned that there's an 8-core i7 (that's a year old already).
> Only a thousand bucks.  Hmm...


I bought my second PC one year before. In fact nearly double as fast as my
i7-3770 / 3.5 GHz with 4 cores / 8 threads.
But - very loud and my room becomes overheated (I own a passive house).

Norbert


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From: Sven Littkowski
Subject: Re: "near sunset"
Date: 6 Jan 2016 22:34:30
Message: <568ddcc6$1@news.povray.org>
Indeed an amazing image. If you make this with a cold winter landscape,
then I wonder what more you will make with a tropical rainforest... :-)

Your skills are very good. I think (take this as a suggestion), you
should have a look at Japanese landscaping and landscapes, and try to
get their special plant ideas into your images. These Japanese gardens
achieve often a very special atmosphere. And with your skills, I think,
you could create a wide series of most beautiful and adorable nature scenes.

Or even this: a landscape, transforming gradually from a wild and
velupturous rainforest into a Japanese landscape with their typical low
ad designed plants.

Best wishes,

Sven


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