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From: Samuel Benge
Subject: Re: A Planetary Journey
Date: 10 Aug 2015 15:40:00
Message: <web.55c8fd0452ac8b06b426f96a0@news.povray.org>
"MichaelJF" <mi-### [at] t-onlinede> wrote:
> Playing around with media to model a sunrise I came up with the following image
> finally.
>
> And yes, there are people trying to walk a rope between hot air balloons. They
> rely on their parachutes.
>
> For the balloons I took an IRTC-Entry by Neil Alexander as starting point.
> Image_maps of Earth and Mars are from NASA of course.
>
> Enjoy and best regards,
> Michael

Good metaphor, although some would say a moon-textured balloon needs to go
between the others :P

The lighting is nice and moody, too, especially near the middle of the image.


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From: MichaelJF
Subject: Re: A Planetary Journey
Date: 10 Aug 2015 15:45:01
Message: <web.55c8fe2d52ac8b06279604b00@news.povray.org>
I'm not quiet sure if I can enter the image into the actual TC-RTC competition.
First the link to the topic is only the connection about a journey which is a
bit weak.

But a weak link to a topic is not really my problem. Ian has a very constructed
link this round as well IMO. But Normand still has the Earth as a Balloon.

Otherwise there are only three entries so far.

What to do? Suggestions are welcome!

Best regards,
Michael


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: A Planetary Journey
Date: 10 Aug 2015 16:16:53
Message: <55c906b5$1@news.povray.org>
On 8/10/2015 8:40 PM, MichaelJF wrote:
> I'm not quiet sure if I can enter the image into the actual TC-RTC competition.
> First the link to the topic is only the connection about a journey which is a
> bit weak.
>
> But a weak link to a topic is not really my problem. Ian has a very constructed
> link this round as well IMO. But Normand still has the Earth as a Balloon.
>
> Otherwise there are only three entries so far.
>
> What to do? Suggestions are welcome!
>

Without discussing it. Go for it.

Discussing it:
It would be a shame if you did not enter the image as it is so good.
It is a mistake to think that similar images are not wanted. They are, 
it makes comparison easier. If the topic was Balloons everyone would 
have a balloon image.
You have carte blanche to use your imagination.


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Regards
     Stephen


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From: Cousin Ricky
Subject: Re: A Planetary Journey
Date: 10 Aug 2015 17:00:30
Message: <55c910ee$1@news.povray.org>
On 08/10/2015 03:40 PM, MichaelJF wrote:
> I'm not quiet sure if I can enter the image into the actual TC-RTC competition.
> First the link to the topic is only the connection about a journey which is a
> bit weak.

I think it's plenty good enough for the topic.  If you think it's too 
weak, you can always include an ars... I mean, back story in the 
description.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: A Planetary Journey
Date: 10 Aug 2015 17:07:44
Message: <55c912a0$1@news.povray.org>
On 8/10/2015 10:01 PM, Cousin Ricky wrote:
> On 08/10/2015 03:40 PM, MichaelJF wrote:
>> I'm not quiet sure if I can enter the image into the actual TC-RTC
>> competition.
>> First the link to the topic is only the connection about a journey
>> which is a
>> bit weak.
>
> I think it's plenty good enough for the topic.  If you think it's too
> weak, you can always include an ars... I mean, back story in the
> description.
>

Infamy, infamy. They have all got it in for me. ;-)

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Regards
     Stephen


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From: BayashiPascal
Subject: Re: A Planetary Journey
Date: 11 Aug 2015 09:55:00
Message: <web.55c9fe5852ac8b06ba6834120@news.povray.org>
I really love the sun light in the trees. It's wonderful :-)


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From: And
Subject: Re: A Planetary Journey
Date: 12 Aug 2015 10:45:02
Message: <web.55cb5b5252ac8b0621dafdd60@news.povray.org>
"MichaelJF" <mi-### [at] t-onlinede> wrote:
> Playing around with media to model a sunrise I came up with the following image
> finally.
>
> And yes, there are people trying to walk a rope between hot air balloons. They
> rely on their parachutes.
>
> For the balloons I took an IRTC-Entry by Neil Alexander as starting point.
> Image_maps of Earth and Mars are from NASA of course.
>
> Enjoy and best regards,
> Michael

Wow, looks so wonderful.


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From: MichaelJF
Subject: Re: A Planetary Journey
Date: 13 Aug 2015 16:05:00
Message: <web.55ccf7bd52ac8b0637e11ae60@news.povray.org>
clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
> Am 09.08.2015 um 19:06 schrieb MichaelJF:
> > Playing around with media to model a sunrise I came up with the following image
> > finally.
>
> The media, trees and far-off balloons look gorgeous!
>
> > And yes, there are people trying to walk a rope between hot air balloons. They
> > rely on their parachutes.
>
> I think the tightrope walker is a bit too large; maybe 70% of its size
> should be a better fit.
>
> > For the balloons I took an IRTC-Entry by Neil Alexander as starting point.
> > Image_maps of Earth and Mars are from NASA of course.
>
> I'm not so happy with the Earth, Mars, red-white striped, and
> yellow-orange banded balloons; they look as if they didn't receive any
> sunlight, while instead glowing on their surface.
>
> If this is supposed to be glow from the propane burners, it should be
> (1) darker, (2) more coloured, and (3) be more intense near the bottom
> of each balloon. One way to achieve this might be to place light sources
> at the propane burner locations with proper distance-based falloff, and
> use arse... um, I mean, backside illumination on the balloon skins
> ("diffuse X,Y" or, better yet, "diffuse albedo X,Y", where X+Y < 1).

I tried a rendering with Uberpov today (+am3 +a0.01 +ac0.9 Count 10, as you
suggested somewhere here). In comparison to my first entry the result is not
very convincing.


Best regards,
Michael


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From: MichaelJF
Subject: Re: A Planetary Journey
Date: 5 Aug 2020 12:46:37
Message: <5f2ae26d@news.povray.org>
Am 09.08.2015 um 19:26 schrieb clipka:
> Am 09.08.2015 um 19:06 schrieb MichaelJF:
>> Playing around with media to model a sunrise I came up with the 
>> following image
>> finally.
> 
> The media, trees and far-off balloons look gorgeous!
> 
>> And yes, there are people trying to walk a rope between hot air 
>> balloons. They
>> rely on their parachutes.
> 
> I think the tightrope walker is a bit too large; maybe 70% of its size 
> should be a better fit.
> 
>> For the balloons I took an IRTC-Entry by Neil Alexander as starting 
>> point.
>> Image_maps of Earth and Mars are from NASA of course.
> 
> I'm not so happy with the Earth, Mars, red-white striped, and 
> yellow-orange banded balloons; they look as if they didn't receive any 
> sunlight, while instead glowing on their surface.
> 
> If this is supposed to be glow from the propane burners, it should be 
> (1) darker, (2) more coloured, and (3) be more intense near the bottom 
> of each balloon. One way to achieve this might be to place light sources 
> at the propane burner locations with proper distance-based falloff, and 
> use arse... um, I mean, backside illumination on the balloon skins 
> ("diffuse X,Y" or, better yet, "diffuse albedo X,Y", where X+Y < 1).
> 
Sorry for the short delay of now some five years. I was occupied by some 
RL issues a while and frustrated after loosing all codes by a headcrash 
on a very new harddrive. Nearly, I had finished a very nice scene (The 
Lonely Swan) and lost all the code. Later I experienced a very heavy 
work load and at the beginning of this year a very severe disease of the 
lung. Now I bought a new machine and thought that this open issue would 
be a very nice test (core i7 vs. core i9). I rendered the image due to 
Clipkas suggestions with diffuse albedo 0.5,0.4 on all balloons. It has 
an little bit different mood since the colouring of the balloons is more 
visible in the distance. The backside illumination has a severe 
drewback: it doesn't work with the colour Blue.

Enjoy
Michael


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From: William F Pokorny
Subject: Re: A Planetary Journey
Date: 5 Aug 2020 14:19:48
Message: <5f2af844$1@news.povray.org>
On 8/5/20 12:46 PM, MichaelJF wrote:
...
> Now I bought a new machine and thought that this open issue would 
> be a very nice test (core i7 vs. core i9). I rendered the image due to 
> Clipkas suggestions with diffuse albedo 0.5,0.4 on all balloons. It has 
> an little bit different mood since the colouring of the balloons is more 
> visible in the distance. The backside illumination has a severe 
> drewback: it doesn't work with the colour Blue. 
> 

Welcome back! I've been otherise hacking at the source code today so 
took a quick look at the related code on seeing your post.

I don't see anything obvious against blue. My guess is it's that the 
blues of your balloons are quite dark. When the code multiplies the dark 
blue value by the backside value*(light * etc) there just isn't much of 
an adder. Dark+dark still ends up pretty dark - more true if your light 
source doesn't have much blue in it; If it's flame colored.

I've played a little with making the backside values larger than they 
'should be' but probably that cheat won't work well with, for example, 
your world map where the bottom looks to be mostly white-ish. Maybe just 
brighten the blues some on balloons with a lot of dark blue <1,1,2>*...?

I like the image. It reminds me of a balloon festival I attended a 
couple times, now 20 years or more ago. Time flies.

Bill P.


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