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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Study in sunsets
Date: 22 Jul 2016 08:26:28
Message: <579210f4@news.povray.org>
Since my last image on metal monsters, I have been experimenting with 
sunsets in which the background sky remains blue. It is something I 
often see from my RL window at a particular hour of the evening. I have 
put the background sky into a separate light_group illuminated by a noon 
sun, all the rest is illuminated by a sunset sun (both from CIE.inc btw).

The clouds are a scattering light grey media within a hollow spherical 
shell of a certain thickness.

This view is attractive I believe and a reminder of more southern climes.

-- 
Thomas


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From: Bald Eagle
Subject: Re: Study in sunsets
Date: 22 Jul 2016 21:00:05
Message: <web.5792c099ad296a1d5e7df57c0@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> Since my last image on metal monsters, I have been experimenting with
> sunsets in which the background sky remains blue. It is something I
> often see from my RL window at a particular hour of the evening. I have
> put the background sky into a separate light_group illuminated by a noon
> sun, all the rest is illuminated by a sunset sun (both from CIE.inc btw).
>
> The clouds are a scattering light grey media within a hollow spherical
> shell of a certain thickness.
>
> This view is attractive I believe and a reminder of more southern climes.
>
> --
> Thomas

That's a great looking cloud formation you have there.  I very much like the way
you have the varying colors in different portions of the cloud mass, and the way
the light strikes them from that "underneath" angle.

I think you've grasped the essentials of the lighting and the colors, and the
manner that your lighting evokes that - late afternoon illumination of something
near by something so very big but so very far away.  If this is a new avenue of
expression, I very much look forward to seeing LOTS more of it   :)

Very nice work, Thomas.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Study in sunsets
Date: 23 Jul 2016 03:05:36
Message: <57931740$1@news.povray.org>
On 23-7-2016 2:55, Bald Eagle wrote:
> That's a great looking cloud formation you have there.  I very much like the way
> you have the varying colors in different portions of the cloud mass, and the way
> the light strikes them from that "underneath" angle.
>
> I think you've grasped the essentials of the lighting and the colors, and the
> manner that your lighting evokes that - late afternoon illumination of something
> near by something so very big but so very far away.  If this is a new avenue of
> expression, I very much look forward to seeing LOTS more of it   :)
>
> Very nice work, Thomas.
>

Thank you very much indeed. This was the first image I was really 
satisfied with after a long series of test that were interesting at 
best. It is a very delicate matter with a large number delicate 
parameters all influencing each other. For now I am mainly playing with 
density variations which - it must be said - do not create really 
/realistic/ cloud patterns, but the idea is perfectly applicable of 
course on Gilles Tran's MakeCloud objects. However, I am not really 
after true realism in general so I am just searching for that one 
pattern that attracts me.

This particular pattern is based on a bozo density pattern. Samples are 
low in this example but in most cases using other patterns need to be 
increased to possibly 100.

Quick-and-dirty:

//---------------start code
#declare AtmosScale = <10, 10, 10>;

#declare Density_in =
density {
   //spiral1 4
   //marble
   //granite
   bozo
   //spherical
   frequency 6
   color_map {
     [0.30 rgb <0.00, 0.00, 0.00>]
     [0.48 rgb 0.9]
     [0.52 rgb 0.9]
     [0.70 rgb <0.00, 0.00, 0.00>]
   }
   scale 5
   //rotate 90*x	//when using spirals; either here or:
   scale 50
   warp {turbulence <2, 4, 2>*1}
   scale 1/50
   //rotate 90*x	//when using spirals; here
}

#declare Density_out =
density {
   //spherical
   //color_map {
     /*[1.0*/ rgb <0.00, 0.00, 0.00>//]
   //}
}

#declare Atmosphere =
difference {
   sphere {0, 1000}
   sphere {0, 600}
   hollow
   material {
     texture {pigment {color rgbt 1} finish {ambient 0 diffuse 0}}
     interior {
       media {
         // (---general values---)
         intervals 1
         samples 5
         scattering {1, rgb <1,1,1>*0.05/AtmosScale}

         // (---method---)
         //method 3           // adaptive sampling
         //aa_threshold 0.1   // accuracy threshold for method 3 [0.1]
         //aa_level 4         // maximum recursion depth for method 3 [4]
         //jitter 0.5         // randomness for method 2&3

         // (---density---)
         density {
           spherical
           density_map {
             [0.1 Density_out]
             [0.9 Density_in]
           }
           warp {turbulence 0.3}
           scale 900
         }
       }
     }
   }
   scale AtmosScale
   scale <5, 1.0, 5>
   rotate 45*y
}
//---------------end code

-- 
Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Study in sunsets
Date: 23 Jul 2016 04:12:10
Message: <579326da@news.povray.org>
Just substituting granite to bozo. Increasing samples will smooth out 
the ragged edges.

-- 
Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Study in sunsets
Date: 24 Jul 2016 06:43:14
Message: <57949bc2@news.povray.org>
A nice one with wrinkles pattern.


-- 
Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Study in sunsets
Date: 28 Jul 2016 04:47:00
Message: <5799c684@news.povray.org>
This one is for Stephen.

"to wound the autumnal city."

Cityscape macros by Mike Williams.

-- 
Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Study in sunsets
Date: 28 Jul 2016 06:30:58
Message: <5799dee2@news.povray.org>
On 7/28/2016 9:46 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> This one is for Stephen.
>
> "to wound the autumnal city."
>

So howled out for the world to give him a name.

> Cityscape macros by Mike Williams.
>

Atmospheric. I like it. Thank you.

(Maybe a bloodier sky with a bloated sun?)




-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Study in sunsets
Date: 28 Jul 2016 09:33:08
Message: <579a0994$1@news.povray.org>
On 28-7-2016 12:30, Stephen wrote:
> On 7/28/2016 9:46 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> This one is for Stephen.
>>
>> "to wound the autumnal city."
>>
>
> So howled out for the world to give him a name.
>
>> Cityscape macros by Mike Williams.
>>
>
> Atmospheric. I like it. Thank you.
>
> (Maybe a bloodier sky with a bloated sun?)
>

I intend to work some more on this piece.


-- 
Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Study in sunsets
Date: 28 Jul 2016 10:08:31
Message: <579a11df$1@news.povray.org>
On 7/28/2016 2:33 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 28-7-2016 12:30, Stephen wrote:
>> On 7/28/2016 9:46 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>> This one is for Stephen.
>>>
>>> "to wound the autumnal city."
>>>
>>
>> So howled out for the world to give him a name.
>>
>>> Cityscape macros by Mike Williams.
>>>
>>
>> Atmospheric. I like it. Thank you.
>>
>> (Maybe a bloodier sky with a bloated sun?)
>>
>
> I intend to work some more on this piece.
>
>

Good.
It made me think of doing an image of the kid as a scorpion.

A couple of years ago I made a start on the dress Lanya wore to the big 
party.
[Un-sensuous nudity warning]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvZfbKGbUDs


-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Study in sunsets
Date: 29 Jul 2016 02:58:53
Message: <579afead$1@news.povray.org>
On 28-7-2016 16:08, Stephen wrote:
> On 7/28/2016 2:33 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 28-7-2016 12:30, Stephen wrote:
>>> On 7/28/2016 9:46 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>> This one is for Stephen.
>>>>
>>>> "to wound the autumnal city."
>>>>
>>>
>>> So howled out for the world to give him a name.
>>>
>>>> Cityscape macros by Mike Williams.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Atmospheric. I like it. Thank you.
>>>
>>> (Maybe a bloodier sky with a bloated sun?)
>>>
>>
>> I intend to work some more on this piece.
>>
>>
>
> Good.
> It made me think of doing an image of the kid as a scorpion.

That would be interesting to do. I have pondered the complex chain 
pattern worn by him but that seems far too complicated to model 
dynamically in Poser and iirc he wore it under his clothes anyway. 
Incidentally, I saw on the web somebody who tattooed the pattern on her 
body (why not indeed?). Still, the kid is also on my (long) wish list.

Lets see where that brings us. We always can combine elements into a 
grand Delany scene. :-)

>
> A couple of years ago I made a start on the dress Lanya wore to the big
> party.
> [Un-sensuous nudity warning]
>

Ah yes, I remember that one. I suppose the dress needed a couple more 
subdivisions to move correctly ;-)


-- 
Thomas


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