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On 26/06/16 13:50, Stephen wrote:
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> Strangely, I can't remember the cost of every drink I've bought. :-P
>
Why? There can't have been that many :-D
John (ducks and covers)
--
It's not about bravery.
It's about doing what I need to do to win
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On 6/26/2016 1:59 PM, Doctor John wrote:
> On 26/06/16 13:50, Stephen wrote:
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>> Strangely, I can't remember the cost of every drink I've bought. :-P
>>
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> Why? There can't have been that many :-D
>
True, true. Little ol teetotaller, me.
> John (ducks and covers)
>
Strange man. What!
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Regards
Stephen
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On 26-6-2016 14:19, Doctor John wrote:
> On 26/06/16 07:45, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 25-6-2016 20:25, Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:
>>> El 25/06/16 a las 13:30, Thomas de Groot escribió:
>>>> That too indeed. 'Vino de Jumilla' was the local wine (3 pesetas the
>>>> glass). The brandy... no. That was awful.
>>>>
>>>
>>> 3 pesetas? ...that must have been before I had the legal age to drink.
>>> I'm not sure I was even born when wine was so cheap...
>>>
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>> End 60's early 70's and not on the coast or in the cities obviously but
>> in the small villages in the Province of Murcia. The quality of the wine
>> was not, hm, something to remember, but it was the cheapest. Better (for
>> your guts) was to drink wine at 5 to 10 pesetas the glass.
>>
>
> Ah yes. The price range compares favourably with that in the White
> Mountains in Crete at the same time.
>
> John (remembering his impoverished student days)
>
And probably you remember how small the glasses were, compared to the
fish bowls you are presented with nowadays (only partly filled)
supposedly to keep the /aroma/! Bunch of snobs!
Fortunately, were where /there/ for a reason and so we had a financial
subsidy from the university to help us empty the local bottles :-)
--
Thomas
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El 26/06/16 a las 08:45, Thomas de Groot escribió:
> End 60's early 70's and not on the coast or in the cities obviously
> but in the small villages in the Province of Murcia. The quality of
> the wine was not, hm, something to remember, but it was the cheapest.
> Better (for your guts) was to drink wine at 5 to 10 pesetas the
> glass.
>
That explains it all: I was 5-6 years old back then... ;)
Also, Murcia was (and perhaps still is) one of the cheapest places in
Spain. And back in the 60's and 70's, the good ones were reserved for
export, so what you tasted locally was most surely bulk wine.
--
jaime
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On 27-6-2016 13:38, Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:
> El 26/06/16 a las 08:45, Thomas de Groot escribió:
>> End 60's early 70's and not on the coast or in the cities obviously
>> but in the small villages in the Province of Murcia. The quality of
>> the wine was not, hm, something to remember, but it was the cheapest.
>> Better (for your guts) was to drink wine at 5 to 10 pesetas the
>> glass.
>>
>
> That explains it all: I was 5-6 years old back then... ;)
Yes, a bit young to start on the nectar of the gods perhaps ;-)
>
> Also, Murcia was (and perhaps still is) one of the cheapest places in
> Spain. And back in the 60's and 70's, the good ones were reserved for
> export, so what you tasted locally was most surely bulk wine.
>
Absolutely. It was about average in general if you avoided the really
cheap ones. Still, even locally, the Jumilla brand was considered 'good'
wine in comparison with the other regions of Spain. There was no one to
contradict of course, and certainly not the itinerant shepherds or the
'fruteros', the seasonal fruit pickers, that came from outside the
province. They were glad to get the wine cheap.
--
Thomas
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El 28/06/16 a las 08:48, Thomas de Groot escribió:
> Absolutely. It was about average in general if you avoided the really
> cheap ones. Still, even locally, the Jumilla brand was considered
> 'good' wine in comparison with the other regions of Spain. There was
> no one to contradict of course, and certainly not the itinerant
> shepherds or the 'fruteros', the seasonal fruit pickers, that came
> from outside the province. They were glad to get the wine cheap.
>
As with any "designation of origin" here, the quality varies greatly
depending on the cellar. Even Ribera del Duero has some really bad wines.
--
jaime
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On 28-6-2016 12:22, Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:
> El 28/06/16 a las 08:48, Thomas de Groot escribió:
>> Absolutely. It was about average in general if you avoided the really
>> cheap ones. Still, even locally, the Jumilla brand was considered
>> 'good' wine in comparison with the other regions of Spain. There was
>> no one to contradict of course, and certainly not the itinerant
>> shepherds or the 'fruteros', the seasonal fruit pickers, that came
>> from outside the province. They were glad to get the wine cheap.
>>
>
> As with any "designation of origin" here, the quality varies greatly
> depending on the cellar. Even Ribera del Duero has some really bad wines.
>
I agree. One still need to be careful and taste before buying
substantial quantities. My own preferences are for Spanish and Italian
wines, above French ones. But much depends on what is available here of
course.
Interesting how we drift from a Metal Monster image towards ants (and a
possible scene) and then o.t. towards wines :-) stream of
consciousness-wise...
--
Thomas
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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Metal Monster entry: The Ant Queen
Date: 28 Jun 2016 08:07:06
Message: <5772686a@news.povray.org>
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On 24-6-2016 8:55, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> I definitely have to make an image now :-)
Remember Micha Riser? http://objects.povworld.org/
He has a nice ant model in POV-Ray code, originally built for Megapov
but I made the necessary changes to be able to use it under version 3.7.
Here is a first view with the metallic skin being an extrapolation from
a texture by Kenneth.
--
Thomas
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Came across this at random, and thought I'd add it to the knowledge stack:
http://tiphero.com/natural-remedies-for-ants/
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Maybe it's just me, but I don't get that "this is made of metal" vibe when I
look at that.
Maybe combine what you've got with uncorroded metal to show that the corrosion /
rust / oxidation is exactly that - and not stone or whatever it might be?
I've seen some good-looking robot-type things, where there's some painted
surfaces with flaking, shiny hydraulic piston shafts, and then the rest of it is
a mix of metal, grease, rust, etc. It seemed to me to be a very convincing
effect even though there was so little actual bare metal showing.
Maybe see about making the ant a bit less - round? "organic"?
Throw some cylinders or facets in there, or remodel it in such a way as to
suggest that parts of it were cast - fillets, radiused parts, etc.
Screws or bolt heads
Plates or greebles
Just a suggestion.
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