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From: Mike Horvath
Subject: Re: Colony ship
Date: 26 Jan 2016 03:34:33
Message: <56a72f99$1@news.povray.org>
On 1/24/2016 7:17 PM, Mike Horvath wrote:
> Here's the latest render from inside the ship. Way too much glare! I
> will explore ways to reduce the glare but I'm not sure what will be
> effective.
>
>
> Mike


I forgot to add that this image took about a week to render. I just 
turned on interior media and radiosity and it is rendering at 13ppm (and 
will probably drop lower at certain spots). So I estimate it will take 
between 1 and 2 months nonstop to fully render.

:(

AMD A8-5600K Trinity Quad-Core 3.6GHz


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Colony ship
Date: 26 Jan 2016 03:49:25
Message: <56a73315$1@news.povray.org>
Am 26.01.2016 um 09:34 schrieb Mike Horvath:

> I forgot to add that this image took about a week to render.

You might want to examine whether you're doing something wrong.

While high quality settings are an obvious factor in long renders,
another infamous but often underestimated performance hog is complex
non-union CSG.


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From: Mike Horvath
Subject: Re: Colony ship
Date: 26 Jan 2016 04:51:03
Message: <56a74187$1@news.povray.org>
On 1/26/2016 3:49 AM, clipka wrote:
> Am 26.01.2016 um 09:34 schrieb Mike Horvath:
>
>> I forgot to add that this image took about a week to render.
>
> You might want to examine whether you're doing something wrong.
>
> While high quality settings are an obvious factor in long renders,
> another infamous but often underestimated performance hog is complex
> non-union CSG.
>

I added a lot of bounded_by statements to the city objects previously. 
If you want to take a look for yourself, you can download the scene here:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/ccp3kv21k3oldvl/GH_LoadingScreen_src_v2_6_0.zip

The file to render is called "gh_scene_spinner_cutaway_e.pov".


Mike


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From: Mike Horvath
Subject: Re: Colony ship
Date: 26 Jan 2016 21:26:58
Message: <56a82af2$1@news.povray.org>
On 1/26/2016 3:34 AM, Mike Horvath wrote:
> On 1/24/2016 7:17 PM, Mike Horvath wrote:
>> Here's the latest render from inside the ship. Way too much glare! I
>> will explore ways to reduce the glare but I'm not sure what will be
>> effective.
>>
>>
>> Mike
>
>
> I forgot to add that this image took about a week to render. I just
> turned on interior media and radiosity and it is rendering at 13ppm (and
> will probably drop lower at certain spots). So I estimate it will take
> between 1 and 2 months nonstop to fully render.
>
> :(
>
> AMD A8-5600K Trinity Quad-Core 3.6GHz
>

The render speed has actually improved to 75ppm. I am 17 hours into the 
render and am at 8% completion of the 1280x720px image! Yay!


Mike


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From: Sven Littkowski
Subject: Re: Colony ship
Date: 27 Jan 2016 06:29:31
Message: <56a8aa1b@news.povray.org>
Thanks! :-D


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From: Sven Littkowski
Subject: Re: Colony ship
Date: 27 Jan 2016 06:32:49
Message: <56a8aae1$1@news.povray.org>
Same problem here. Just to render a part of the central hull of my
starship, it takes several days. I think, the problem is too many
individual shapes (like boxes and such).

I heard about a plugin for SketchUp, that can export to our POV-Ray
scene description language. As mesh.I am considering to design a number
of elements of my ship in Sketchup as meshes, and then add those meshes
to my POV-Ray scenes. I believe, I will gain render speed by replacing
hundreds of box with one single mesh shape. Could I be right with my
assumption?


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From: Sven Littkowski
Subject: Re: Colony ship
Date: 27 Jan 2016 06:35:19
Message: <56a8ab77$1@news.povray.org>
And I am happily rendering my spaceship at 17PPM. If I would render the
entire spaceship, I would expect to watch the finished render image in
somewhere in the 6th millennium AD...


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Colony ship
Date: 27 Jan 2016 07:39:03
Message: <56a8ba67$1@news.povray.org>
On 1/27/2016 11:32 AM, Sven Littkowski wrote:
> Same problem here. Just to render a part of the central hull of my
> starship, it takes several days. I think, the problem is too many
> individual shapes (like boxes and such).
>
> I heard about a plugin for SketchUp, that can export to our POV-Ray
> scene description language. As mesh.I am considering to design a number
> of elements of my ship in Sketchup as meshes, and then add those meshes
> to my POV-Ray scenes. I believe, I will gain render speed by replacing
> hundreds of box with one single mesh shape. Could I be right with my
> assumption?
>

I have not used SketchUp for some time and was going to say that most of 
the models looked very blocky and not very well textured. Then I 
rememberd that in the early days of TC-RTC a member used SketchUp with 
VRay. The models don't need to be blocky.

Have a look at:

http://www.tc-rtc.co.uk/image/upload//chandan/pw-1250429739-final3.jpg

and his other one

http://www.tc-rtc.co.uk/image/upload//chandan/pw-1245100893-Evidence_2.jpg

But if you are going to learn a new modeller why not give Blender a try?
I know it has a steep learning curve but it is not as bad as it was.
In both PovRay plugins* you can use PovCode for texturing.


* There is an official PovRay exporter and LanuHum's unofficial one.

-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Sven Littkowski
Subject: Re: Colony ship
Date: 27 Jan 2016 14:55:56
Message: <56a920cc@news.povray.org>
I even have Blender installed. But I don't get the beginning
understanding. I find it in general too difficult, to learn to use
WYSIWYG editors. I code all my scenes by hand, and out of my head. Much
easier. SketchUp is kinda more like drawing and then making it 3D. But I
will try again with Blender.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Colony ship
Date: 27 Jan 2016 15:13:23
Message: <56a924e3$1@news.povray.org>
On 1/27/2016 7:55 PM, Sven Littkowski wrote:
> I even have Blender installed. But I don't get the beginning
> understanding. I find it in general too difficult, to learn to use
> WYSIWYG editors.

I remember that you have mentioned that before.

> I code all my scenes by hand, and out of my head. Much
> easier.

Not for me it's not. :(

> SketchUp is kinda more like drawing and then making it 3D. But I
> will try again with Blender.
>
Don't do it just because I suggest it. I'm concerned that unless you 
become more than competent in UV mapping. Texturing a ginormous mesh 
will be very hard.
Do you know about inkscape? Blender can take a 2D drawing done in 
inkscape and extend it in the third dimension. I mean that it can take a 
plan drawing and grow it upwards.
https://inkscape.org/en/

-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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