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On 25/08/2014 16:40, clipka wrote:
> Turns out they need to be those space-grade hyperspace-jump-capable ones
> - I've just installed Frontier's Elite: Dangerous beta. Hard times for
> you, folks - fun times for me :-D
>
I've been lost there for the past couple of weeks.
> (The Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog combo + rudder pedals really kick ass
> with this game. Pity I don't own an Oculus Rift as well...)
You would have to be prized out for your meals. ;-)
I left the old school behind and bought a joystick.
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Stephen
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Am 25.08.2014 18:15, schrieb Stephen:
> On 25/08/2014 16:40, clipka wrote:
>> Turns out they need to be those space-grade hyperspace-jump-capable ones
>> - I've just installed Frontier's Elite: Dangerous beta. Hard times for
>> you, folks - fun times for me :-D
>
> I've been lost there for the past couple of weeks.
How about meeting up in there some time? Cmdr. Apec Valorian would be
glad to accompany you for whatever it is you're currently doing.
>> (The Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog combo + rudder pedals really kick ass
>> with this game. Pity I don't own an Oculus Rift as well...)
>
> You would have to be prized out for your meals. ;-)
>
> I left the old school behind and bought a joystick.
What's "old school" about /not/ using a joystick when it comes to Elite? ?-)
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On 25/08/2014 18:27, clipka wrote:
> Am 25.08.2014 18:15, schrieb Stephen:
>> On 25/08/2014 16:40, clipka wrote:
>>> Turns out they need to be those space-grade hyperspace-jump-capable ones
>>> - I've just installed Frontier's Elite: Dangerous beta. Hard times for
>>> you, folks - fun times for me :-D
>>
>> I've been lost there for the past couple of weeks.
>
> How about meeting up in there some time? Cmdr. Apec Valorian would be
> glad to accompany you for whatever it is you're currently doing.
>
>
I'm Justin Joying Myself and I'm just looking around.
Is 21:30 your time too late?
I'm at Rakapila [Stone Enterprise] ATM in a Cobra.
I will point out that I am having problems with frame rate and the
screen freezing since the Island Test and keep dropping out.
>>> (The Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog combo + rudder pedals really kick ass
>>> with this game. Pity I don't own an Oculus Rift as well...)
>>
>> You would have to be prized out for your meals. ;-)
>>
>> I left the old school behind and bought a joystick.
>
> What's "old school" about /not/ using a joystick when it comes to Elite?
> ?-)
>
I've not played any games since Doom3 so never had any need for a
joystick. Until now.
But to read some of the posters in the forum it is like hand coding SDL.
The only TRUE path. ;-)
--
Regards
Stephen
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Am 25.08.2014 20:18, schrieb Stephen:
> On 25/08/2014 18:27, clipka wrote:
>> Am 25.08.2014 18:15, schrieb Stephen:
>>> On 25/08/2014 16:40, clipka wrote:
>>>> Turns out they need to be those space-grade hyperspace-jump-capable
>>>> ones
>>>> - I've just installed Frontier's Elite: Dangerous beta. Hard times for
>>>> you, folks - fun times for me :-D
>>>
>>> I've been lost there for the past couple of weeks.
>>
>> How about meeting up in there some time? Cmdr. Apec Valorian would be
>> glad to accompany you for whatever it is you're currently doing.
>>
>>
> I'm Justin Joying Myself and I'm just looking around.
>
> Is 21:30 your time too late?
Not at all. Except - I didn't read your post early enough ;-)
> I'm at Rakapila [Stone Enterprise] ATM in a Cobra.
Rakapila? OMG - you should have told me earlier. I found myself stranded
there couple of hours ago in my petty Sidewinder, and decided to restart
from scratch; for some reasons, it seems an all-empty Sidewinder can
just about make it /in/ to Rakapila but not /back/ - and there's not
much profit to be made there to upgrade to a ship with more jump range.
I'm currently making cargo runs between Ovid and... uh, dunno, that
neighboring system beginning with O... hauling fish and crop harvesters.
> I will point out that I am having problems with frame rate and the
> screen freezing since the Island Test and keep dropping out.
Sounds awful. I'm experiencing glitches now and again, but overall
gameplay is fine.
>>>> (The Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog combo + rudder pedals really kick ass
>>>> with this game. Pity I don't own an Oculus Rift as well...)
>>>
>>> You would have to be prized out for your meals. ;-)
>>>
>>> I left the old school behind and bought a joystick.
>>
>> What's "old school" about /not/ using a joystick when it comes to Elite?
>> ?-)
>>
>
> I've not played any games since Doom3 so never had any need for a
> joystick. Until now.
You don't play /any/ PC games with joysticks...
> But to read some of the posters in the forum it is like hand coding SDL.
> The only TRUE path. ;-)
... except for (air and space) flight simulations, which you absolutely,
positively /never/ play without.
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On 25/08/2014 22:07, clipka wrote:
> Am 25.08.2014 20:18, schrieb Stephen:
>> On 25/08/2014 18:27, clipka wrote:
>>> Am 25.08.2014 18:15, schrieb Stephen:
>>>> On 25/08/2014 16:40, clipka wrote:
> Not at all. Except - I didn't read your post early enough ;-)
>
>> I'm at Rakapila [Stone Enterprise] ATM in a Cobra.
>
> Rakapila? OMG - you should have told me earlier. I found myself stranded
> there couple of hours ago in my petty Sidewinder, and decided to restart
> from scratch; for some reasons, it seems an all-empty Sidewinder can
> just about make it /in/ to Rakapila but not /back/ - and there's not
> much profit to be made there to upgrade to a ship with more jump range.
>
This is true. I had to drop some cheep cargo to get to Bolg & Ross 1015
I'll head back towards the centre. And we can meet up there,
> I'm currently making cargo runs between Ovid and... uh, dunno, that
> neighboring system beginning with O... hauling fish and crop harvesters.
>
There is a good run between Aulin and I Bootis.
With, Terrain Enrichment Systems and Fish.
Round trip profit with 4 Tons is 2800 + 600
And with a 100t hauler it is 83000.
>> I will point out that I am having problems with frame rate and the
>> screen freezing since the Island Test and keep dropping out.
>
> Sounds awful. I'm experiencing glitches now and again, but overall
> gameplay is fine.
>
It was fine for me until last week. It is a bit better tonight.
>>>
>>> What's "old school" about /not/ using a joystick when it comes to Elite?
>>> ?-)
>>>
>>
>> I've not played any games since Doom3 so never had any need for a
>> joystick. Until now.
>
> You don't play /any/ PC games with joysticks...
>
Probably why I didn't have one.
I do remember playing M$ Flight Simulator with the keyboard. That must
have been able to use a joystick. Back in the BBS days.
>> But to read some of the posters in the forum it is like hand coding SDL.
>> The only TRUE path. ;-)
>
> .... except for (air and space) flight simulations, which you
> absolutely, positively /never/ play without.
>
Well I did but I'm talking twenty odd years ago.
And I knew at the time I wanted a joystick.
--
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Stephen
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Am 26.08.2014 00:39, schrieb Stephen:
>> Rakapila? OMG - you should have told me earlier. I found myself stranded
>> there couple of hours ago in my petty Sidewinder, and decided to restart
>> from scratch; for some reasons, it seems an all-empty Sidewinder can
>> just about make it /in/ to Rakapila but not /back/ - and there's not
>> much profit to be made there to upgrade to a ship with more jump range.
>
> This is true. I had to drop some cheep cargo to get to Bolg & Ross 1015
> I'll head back towards the centre. And we can meet up there,
>
>> I'm currently making cargo runs between Ovid and... uh, dunno, that
>> neighboring system beginning with O... hauling fish and crop harvesters.
>
> There is a good run between Aulin and I Bootis.
Hm... I prefer to avoid Aulin because it tends to be overcrowded, and
the docking computer seems to freak out in such situations...
Speaking of profit and dropping cargo: A few hours ago I had to jettison
a can of algae and a barrel of fish into space; including the fines for
littering the surroundings of a space station that was a loss of about
800 credits. Totally worth it though when you have the unexpected
opportunity to scoop in two crates of battle weapons from an annihilated
ship - they sold at about 5,000 bucks each :-D (I could probably have
made even more profit if I hadn't sold at the first opportunity, but I
didn't like flying around with those crates being labeled "stolen".)
> With, Terrain Enrichment Systems and Fish.
> Round trip profit with 4 Tons is 2800 + 600
>
> And with a 100t hauler it is 83000.
Maybe I should indeed get me one of these for a change, until I've got
the money together to buy that Cobra Mk III.
> I do remember playing M$ Flight Simulator with the keyboard. That must
> have been able to use a joystick. Back in the BBS days.
Certainly so. If you had one of those fancy new SoundBlaster cards of
course.
I suspect it could also make good use of the CH Flightstick Pro - you
know, the one with the four buttons, coolie hat, and throttle slider.
>>> But to read some of the posters in the forum it is like hand coding SDL.
>>> The only TRUE path. ;-)
>>
>> .... except for (air and space) flight simulations, which you
>> absolutely, positively /never/ play without.
>
> Well I did but I'm talking twenty odd years ago.
> And I knew at the time I wanted a joystick.
I had always been into flight sims, so I got me a joystick quite early -
I had quite a collection at the end of the gameport era. Some were
pretty useless, usually because they would never calibrate properly - an
ailment that was annoyingly widespread in the gameport world. But I got
one yoke that was ok, and the CH products were always reliable in this
respect (and actually in any other respect as well).
I always thought the CH product line to be the top of them all; somehow
they felt more precise and less toy-ish as all the other brands (let
alone non-brands) - maybe because CH also has expertise in actual
airplane equipment.
But you ain't seen nothin' yet until you get your hands on the
Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog. If Microsoft, Saitek and Logitech (and even
the other Thrustmaster stuff) are pop or rock & roll, and the CH stuff
is hard rock, then this is heavy metal - literally, as a matter of fact.
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On 26/08/2014 03:29, clipka wrote:
> Am 26.08.2014 00:39, schrieb Stephen:
>
>> There is a good run between Aulin and I Bootis.
>
> Hm... I prefer to avoid Aulin because it tends to be overcrowded, and
> the docking computer seems to freak out in such situations...
>
I have not been there for a couple of days but it was not that busy when
I was. As for the docking computer. The forums say it is a 4 bit moron.
I don't have one and watching some of them dock it looks like a liability.
> Speaking of profit and dropping cargo: A few hours ago I had to jettison
> a can of algae and a barrel of fish into space; including the fines for
> littering the surroundings of a space station that was a loss of about
> 800 credits. Totally worth it though when you have the unexpected
> opportunity to scoop in two crates of battle weapons from an annihilated
> ship - they sold at about 5,000 bucks each :-D (I could probably have
> made even more profit if I hadn't sold at the first opportunity, but I
> didn't like flying around with those crates being labeled "stolen".)
>
>
I am not surprised with the number of interdictions that happen.
>> With, Terrain Enrichment Systems and Fish.
>> Round trip profit with 4 Tons is 2800 + 600
>>
>> And with a 100t hauler it is 83000.
>
> Maybe I should indeed get me one of these for a change, until I've got
> the money together to buy that Cobra Mk III.
>
>
I liked the one I had. The view from the cockpit is more open. And if
you find a good run the cash mounts up.
Remember to keep enough of a float to pay for your ship's and weapon's
insurance. My first sortie in one did not last long enough to get out of
the station.
>> I do remember playing M$ Flight Simulator with the keyboard. That must
>> have been able to use a joystick. Back in the BBS days.
>
> Certainly so. If you had one of those fancy new SoundBlaster cards of
> course.
>
I did but couldn't talk my work into buying one for me.
>>> .... except for (air and space) flight simulations, which you
>>> absolutely, positively /never/ play without.
>>
>> Well I did but I'm talking twenty odd years ago.
>> And I knew at the time I wanted a joystick.
>
> I had always been into flight sims, so I got me a joystick quite early -
I spent a lot of time playing FS4 and F19 until my wife bought me a
flying lesson for a birthday.
All was fine until the pilot let me take the controls. I keep forgetting
that I get vertigo and I was terrified. I did not freeze or anything but
it was not enjoyable. That ended my flight simulator career quite
sharpish. ED is different, no one will make me fly a spaceship in real life.
> I always thought the CH product line to be the top of them all; somehow
> they felt more precise and less toy-ish as all the other brands (let
> alone non-brands) - maybe because CH also has expertise in actual
> airplane equipment.
>
> But you ain't seen nothin' yet until you get your hands on the
> Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog. If Microsoft, Saitek and Logitech (and even
> the other Thrustmaster stuff) are pop or rock & roll, and the CH stuff
> is hard rock, then this is heavy metal - literally, as a matter of fact.
>
I'll bear that in mind if/when I want to upgrade. But first I have to
move away from using only laptops and get a proper machine with a
graphics card and expansion slots.
--
Regards
Stephen
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On 25-8-2014 17:40, clipka wrote:
> Turns out they need to be those space-grade hyperspace-jump-capable ones
> - I've just installed Frontier's Elite: Dangerous beta. Hard times for
> you, folks - fun times for me :-D
So... when will you be back, if at all? ;-)
Thomas
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Am 26.08.2014 08:17, schrieb Stephen:
>> Speaking of profit and dropping cargo: A few hours ago I had to jettison
>> a can of algae and a barrel of fish into space; including the fines for
>> littering the surroundings of a space station that was a loss of about
>> 800 credits. Totally worth it though when you have the unexpected
>> opportunity to scoop in two crates of battle weapons from an annihilated
>> ship - they sold at about 5,000 bucks each :-D (I could probably have
>> made even more profit if I hadn't sold at the first opportunity, but I
>> didn't like flying around with those crates being labeled "stolen".)
>>
> I am not surprised with the number of interdictions that happen.
I wasn't that much worried about interdictions - I can easily outrun
anything before they even get a chance to scan - but security scans at a
station.
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On 26/08/2014 13:34, clipka wrote:
> Am 26.08.2014 08:17, schrieb Stephen:
>
>>>
>> I am not surprised with the number of interdictions that happen.
>
> I wasn't that much worried about interdictions - I can easily outrun
> anything before they even get a chance to scan - but security scans at a
> station.
>
I was thinking of security interdictions.
Drop me a mail when you want to meet up.
I saw your name, last night but could not contact you via the inbuilt comms.
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Stephen
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