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From: Jeremy M  Praay
Subject: Bonsai Life #1
Date: 22 Jan 2008 16:14:12
Message: <47961654@news.povray.org>
I've finally updated my scene from...  uhh...  Well, a long time ago, 
anyway.

I replaced the old tree, with a new larger, more robust tree, and the 
climbing vines are gone, though perhaps they'll return in another scene. 
The bark is still not perfect, but I'm fairly happy with it.  I had to 
modify the TomTree files themselves, since I was not able to get anything 
decent via the tree macro's alone.

Just to recap, the idea here was not to have tiny folk running around on a 
bonsai, but more to have two different scales coexisting together.  There is 
both the miniature world, and the normal world, at the same time.  Gee, this 
would have been a neat concept for the "Worlds within worlds" IRTC challenge 
such a long time ago.

Well, anyway, I still hope to produce more images along this theme, hence 
the "#1" in the title.  It's something that appeals to me quite a bit, so I 
hope to make a few more.  :-)


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Bonsai Life #1
Date: 22 Jan 2008 16:31:55
Message: <47961a7b$1@news.povray.org>
Superb! I like everything about this.

 Quick idea's:

o Girl on a swing with the lad pushing her.

o They could both be feeding the horse.

o Girl exclaiming to her Beau to "Be careful Tommy!" whilst he's climbing 
the tree.


    I'll leave others to you, but well done Jeremy. That's nice. :)

     ~Steve~


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Bonsai Life #1
Date: 22 Jan 2008 16:42:03
Message: <47961cdb$1@news.povray.org>
Jeremy M. Praay wrote:
> I've finally updated my scene from...  uhh...  Well, a long time ago, 
> anyway.
> 
> I replaced the old tree, with a new larger, more robust tree, and the 
> climbing vines are gone, though perhaps they'll return in another scene. 
> The bark is still not perfect, but I'm fairly happy with it.  I had to 
> modify the TomTree files themselves, since I was not able to get anything 
> decent via the tree macro's alone.
> 
> Just to recap, the idea here was not to have tiny folk running around on a 
> bonsai, but more to have two different scales coexisting together.  There is 
> both the miniature world, and the normal world, at the same time.  Gee, this 
> would have been a neat concept for the "Worlds within worlds" IRTC challenge 
> such a long time ago.
> 
> Well, anyway, I still hope to produce more images along this theme, hence 
> the "#1" in the title.  It's something that appeals to me quite a bit, so I 
> hope to make a few more.  :-) 
> 
> 
> 
Just a remarkable tracing.  In particular the subtle use of finish on 
the different surfaces, and the varigation in the wood of the trunk. 
The fact that you are able to deliver, technically, in answer to the 
scrutiny such an image invites, rego!  And that's before we even get 
started on the conceptual dimensions to the picture.


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Bonsai Life #1
Date: 22 Jan 2008 16:45:01
Message: <web.47961cf885408aa9773c9a3e0@news.povray.org>
beautiful.  Pure raytracing and its high contrast illumination and dark shadows
inspires such a barroque feel that combines wonderfuly with this image...


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From: Jeremy M  Praay
Subject: Re: Bonsai Life #1
Date: 22 Jan 2008 18:30:47
Message: <47963657$1@news.povray.org>
"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:47961a7b$1@news.povray.org...
> Superb! I like everything about this.

Thank you!

>
> Quick idea's:
>
> o Girl on a swing with the lad pushing her.

I had already started on that concept, but had trouble getting the "on the 
swing" pose to work with the clothes in Poser.  Nevertheless, that's one 
idea that I really like, and will hopefully figure out a way to do it.

Actually, the child behind the tree is her little sister, but it's kind of 
hard to tell here.  I just realized that I forgot to put the ribbon in the 
hat, which should have made it a bit less ambiguous.  She looks something 
like this: http://www.stomptokyo.com/img-m2/totoro-1.jpg  Initially, there 
was no little sister, but after watching "My Neighbor Totoro" again (a 
couple months ago), that type of character seemed to fit, and she adds a bit 
more to the story.

>
> o They could both be feeding the horse.
>
> o Girl exclaiming to her Beau to "Be careful Tommy!" whilst he's climbing 
> the tree.
>

Now, I think you're starting to read my mind!  But I don't want to say too 
much about this right now, as the concept is still somewhat vague, and I 
have a lot of new technical challenges if I want to "pull it off", or so to 
speak.  There may be other bonsai, in other pots...


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From: Jeremy M  Praay
Subject: Re: Bonsai Life #1
Date: 22 Jan 2008 18:45:37
Message: <479639d1$1@news.povray.org>
"nemesis" <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote in message 
news:web.47961cf885408aa9773c9a3e0@news.povray.org...
> beautiful.  Pure raytracing and its high contrast illumination and dark 
> shadows
> inspires such a barroque feel that combines wonderfuly with this image...
>

Thank you!

I enjoy shadows...  perhaps too much.  I like the idea that somehow there 
are details hidden just beyond the limits of perception.  And, well, 
sometimes I purposely make details AT the limits of perception, perhaps as a 
reward to anyone who cares to stare long enough.  :-)


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From: Jeremy M  Praay
Subject: Re: Bonsai Life #1
Date: 22 Jan 2008 19:12:44
Message: <4796402c$1@news.povray.org>
"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote in message 
news:47961cdb$1@news.povray.org...
> Just a remarkable tracing.  In particular the subtle use of finish on the 
> different surfaces, and the varigation in the wood of the trunk.

Thank you!  I'm extremely happy with the pot and the stand, but getting 
decent tree bark on a TomTree/POV-Tree, is quite a challenge.  I'm still not 
completely satisfied, but I'll let this stand for now.  Jaime's bonsai are 
far superior in that regard.

> The fact that you are able to deliver, technically, in answer to the 
> scrutiny such an image invites, rego!  And that's before we even get 
> started on the conceptual dimensions to the picture.

"Rego"?  Is that a word?

More than any other scene I've created, this pleases me.  :-)  It's perhaps 
not so much from a technical perspective, but this time, I really like the 
subject, and the fact that I've included "humans".  The use of people, if 
done well, certainly creates a more dynamic and emotional setting.  Keeping 
them small helps to keep the overall picture more photorealistic, but that's 
just a nifty side-effect.

Ego.


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From: Mike the Elder
Subject: Re: Bonsai Life #1
Date: 22 Jan 2008 20:05:00
Message: <web.47964c3185408aa9e2b2e7080@news.povray.org>
"Jeremy M. Praay" <jer### [at] questsoftwarecmo> wrote:
> I've finally updated my scene from...  uhh...  Well, a long time ago,
> anyway.
.....It's something that appeals to me quite a bit, so I
> hope to make a few more.  :-)

Splendid! I'm looking forward to what comes next.

Best Regards,
Mike C.


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Bonsai Life #1
Date: 22 Jan 2008 20:10:54
Message: <47964dce$1@news.povray.org>
Jeremy M. Praay wrote:

> 
> "Rego"?  Is that a word?
> 
There is a neighbourhood in Queens called Rego Park
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rego_Park,_Queens

I was watching my daughter play hockey Sunday morning shoulder to 
shoulder with a surgeon, and his wife. (His name is Jim too, and btw, 
originates from your neck of the woods, near Detroit.) She was joking (I 
hope) with him  that he should buy advertizing on the ice rink 'boards' 
(you know, the curtain of boards that surround the ice surface) and say 
something like, "Jim ********: Real Good Surgeon"  Thinking of the Wiki 
article, I chipped in, "Rego Surgeon"

So I thought I would try my newly recoined word* on you.

*An Acronym search says it means 'Reinvent Government', how boring.


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Bonsai Life #1
Date: 22 Jan 2008 20:40:00
Message: <web.4796539e85408aa9773c9a3e0@news.povray.org>
Jim Charter <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote:
> So I thought I would try my newly recoined word* on you.

I thought it was a typo for the "ergo" interjection...


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