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From: Hughes, B 
Subject: Re: Crash on starting 3.6
Date: 14 Feb 2004 08:44:58
Message: <402e265a$1@news.povray.org>
"Mick Hazelgrove" <mic### [at] mhazelgrovefsnetcouk> wrote in message
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>
> > Have you rebooted the PC since ?
>
> yes - still crashes could it be anything to do with MS's latest security
> patch as it was working fine until I installed the patch.

I'm using WinXP HE, always up to date, nothing happening like this.

Have you checked to see if the options for Online Operations could be the
problem then? And since POV-Ray won't run I'd guess you can make changes to
that from the ini\pvengine.ini file. Looks like the following lines would be
set to zero:

CheckNewVersion=1
CheckNews=1
SendSystemInfo=1

I'm sure Chris could tell you if that's a good idea or not, but it sure
would be my first guess.

Bob H.


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From: Mick Hazelgrove
Subject: Re: Crash on starting 3.6
Date: 14 Feb 2004 13:09:44
Message: <402e6468@news.povray.org>
> CheckNewVersion=1
> CheckNews=1
> SendSystemInfo=1

Interesting these lines don't exist  should they ?

My PVENGINE.ini file reads:

[Permitted Input Paths]
1=%INSTALLDIR%
2=C:\WINDOWS\Fonts

[Permitted Output Paths]
1=%INSTALLDIR%\Renderer\ReRun
2=%INSTALLDIR%\Insert Menu

[General]
BigSplash=1076748722
RunCount=4
[Editor]
LastPath=C:\PROGRAM FILES\POV-RAY FOR WINDOWS V3.6\SCENES\OBJECTS


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From: Hughes, B 
Subject: Re: Crash on starting 3.6
Date: 14 Feb 2004 13:17:41
Message: <402e6645$1@news.povray.org>
Wow, mine looks filled with stuff compared to that. My General section has:

[General]
BigSplash=1076683429
RunCount=40
ItsAboutTime=1077784612
TextColour=16777215
BackgroundColour=14933984
DropToEditor=1
LastRenderName=iceberg.pov
LastRenderPath=C:\Program Files\POV-Ray for Windows v3.6\scenes
LastQueuePath=C:\PROGRAM FILES\POV-RAY FOR WINDOWS V3.6\SCENES
LastBitmapName=*.bmp
LastBitmapPath=C:\PROGRAM FILES\POV-RAY FOR WINDOWS V3.6\TILES
CommandLine=
LastINIPath=C:\PROGRAM FILES\POV-RAY FOR WINDOWS V3.6\RENDERER
SecondaryINIFile=C:\PROGRAM FILES\POV-RAY FOR WINDOWS
V3.6\RENDERER\QUICKRES.INI
SecondaryINISection=[800x600, No AA]
BackgroundFile=0
SaveSettingsOnExit=1
TileBackground=1
HideNewUserHelp=0
CheckNewVersion=1
CheckNews=1
SendSystemInfo=1
Version=3.6.beta.1.msvc7.win32
OneInstance=0
[Editor]
---and so forth---

-- 
Bob H.
http://www.3digitaleyes.com


"Mick Hazelgrove" <mic### [at] mhazelgrovefsnetcouk> wrote in message
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>
>
> > CheckNewVersion=1
> > CheckNews=1
> > SendSystemInfo=1
>
> Interesting these lines don't exist  should they ?
>
> My PVENGINE.ini file reads:
>
> [Permitted Input Paths]
> 1=%INSTALLDIR%
> 2=C:\WINDOWS\Fonts
>
> [Permitted Output Paths]
> 1=%INSTALLDIR%\Renderer\ReRun
> 2=%INSTALLDIR%\Insert Menu
>
> [General]
> BigSplash=1076748722
> RunCount=4
> [Editor]
> LastPath=C:\PROGRAM FILES\POV-RAY FOR WINDOWS V3.6\SCENES\OBJECTS


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From: Mick Hazelgrove
Subject: Re: Crash on starting 3.6
Date: 14 Feb 2004 13:20:12
Message: <402e66dc@news.povray.org>
I've just reinstalled Pov with the connection operations turned off, the
missing lines appear, set to 0 as they should but Pov still refuses to run.
Changing the entries to 1 also fails to help.

Mick


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From: Hughes, B 
Subject: Re: Crash on starting 3.6
Date: 14 Feb 2004 13:38:17
Message: <402e6b19$1@news.povray.org>
"Mick Hazelgrove" <mic### [at] mhazelgrovefsnetcouk> wrote in message
news:402e66dc@news.povray.org...
> I've just reinstalled Pov with the connection operations turned off, the
> missing lines appear, set to 0 as they should but Pov still refuses to
run.
> Changing the entries to 1 also fails to help.

Only time I can say I'm glad to not be you. Patience with renders is one
thing, program not running is another matter.

Have you removed the system registry keys for POV yet? That's all I can
suggest. Doesn't seem likely anything like that could cause such a critical
error though if it installs okay. Sure hope you find a solution soon.

Bob H.


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From: Chris Cason
Subject: Re: Crash on starting 3.6
Date: 14 Feb 2004 17:47:45
Message: <402ea591@news.povray.org>
"Mick Hazelgrove" <mic### [at] mhazelgrovefsnetcouk> wrote in message
news:402e6468@news.povray.org...
> Interesting these lines don't exist  should they ?

it's quite OK for them not to be there. and they don't have anything
to do with your problem.

if you can't find a solution to the problem ping me again and I'll get
a debugging version to you.

-- Chris


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From: Chris Cason
Subject: Re: Crash on starting 3.6
Date: 14 Feb 2004 17:56:29
Message: <402ea79d@news.povray.org>
"Mick Hazelgrove" <mic### [at] mhazelgrovefsnetcouk> wrote in message
news:402de226@news.povray.org...
>
> > Have you rebooted the PC since ?
>
> yes - still crashes could it be anything to do with MS's latest security
> patch as it was working fine until I installed the patch.

If the patch has a rollback try using it and seeing if it makes a difference
(it'll be in the add/remove software menu in that case).

The error you are seeing is generated if the backend thread takes more than
one second to liven up and finish its initialization. On my test system it
takes less than 20 milliseconds to do this so I'd say that something is going
on that's seriously slowing down or more likely completely jamming up the POVMS
and/or POV code initialization.

-- Chris


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From: Mick Hazelgrove
Subject: Re: Crash on starting 3.6
Date: 15 Feb 2004 12:29:52
Message: <402fac90@news.povray.org>
It doesn't seem to be anything to do with MS patches.

I'm going to turn all programs off one by one to see if it's another
program. Been laying floors all day so I've only just got round to having
thoughts about the problem.

Chris please send me a debugging version.

Mick


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From: Hugo Asm
Subject: Re: Crash on starting 3.6
Date: 17 Feb 2004 06:57:18
Message: <4032019e$1@news.povray.org>
Do you have multiple versions of POV-Ray installed, so you can try and see
if they work?  I have 4 versions (they are basically just multiple .exe
files ala pvengine.exe)

Regards,
Hugo


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From: Chris Cason
Subject: Re: Crash on starting 3.6
Date: 27 Feb 2004 02:32:14
Message: <403ef27e@news.povray.org>
"Mick Hazelgrove" <mic### [at] mhazelgrovefsnetcouk> wrote in message
news:402fac90@news.povray.org...
> It doesn't seem to be anything to do with MS patches.
>
> I'm going to turn all programs off one by one to see if it's another
> program. Been laying floors all day so I've only just got round to having
> thoughts about the problem.
>
> Chris please send me a debugging version.

Please grab it from the URL I just sent you in email.

-- Chris


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