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Redirected over to here from p.b.a.
They don't *have* to be any particular format really. What should be
considered however is what the majority of people have to play the
animations. Seems most have avi and mpg decoding at least for PCs
especially; Apples QuickTime for mov files on the Mac OS (and PC too) is
another I suppose.
Anyway, anyone could post any form of animation. Self executing ones would
be very good except for some worry about the exe file being d/l and run,
plus the fact they add on a precious bit to the file size which counts a
lot here.
All in all a format not widely used is not guaranteed to get as much
attention unfortunately. I'd like to have the best possible
encoder/decoder, just can't be certain of everyone else having it.
Alan Holding wrote:
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> Hello.
>
> Just a query about the animation file formats that should be used to post
> anims to this group.
>
> Do they HAVE to be either an AVI or an MPEG file? What about Rad Game Tools
> BINK format? That seems to give good compression rates and decent playback.
> You can read about it here - www.radgametools.com - Not a plug, by the
> way!!
>
> Thanks,
> ALAN.
>
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Bob wrote:
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> Redirected over to here from p.b.a.
> Self executing ones would
> be very good except for some worry about the exe file being d/l and run,
> plus the fact they add on a precious bit to the file size which counts a
> lot here.
Self executing ones would be *very bad*.
Hey - check out my new self-extracting "melissa" mpeg :)
And the super cool "ExploreZip" mpeg.
Even with my Steel Skivvys(tm) on, i never run alien executables
on my machine unless i have to; and you shouldn't either.
Every time you install or run alien executables, you increase
your likelihood (ever so slightly) of having to revisit "FORMAT C:"
Especially executables from a news server. Just pull the trigger now.
P.S. How's come the media isn't glomming on to the fact that
all of the killer email virii only affect M$ mail users?
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From: Ian Burgmyer
Subject: Re: Animation file formats. HAVE to be AVI or MPEG?
Date: 9 Sep 1999 23:32:16
Message: <37d87bc0@news.povray.org>
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> P.S. How's come the media isn't glomming on to the fact that
> all of the killer email virii only affect M$ mail users?
Last time I got a virus, it was a CIH from a newsgroup. And I was using
Netscape Messanger. Please explain your reasoning behind this (IMHO)
ludicrous statement.
It's the virus scanner that does the work, not the mail client.
-Ian
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On Thu, 9 Sep 1999 23:34:00 -0400, "Ian Burgmyer"
<the### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>Last time I got a virus, it was a CIH from a newsgroup. And I was using
>Netscape Messanger. Please explain your reasoning behind this (IMHO)
>ludicrous statement.
>
>It's the virus scanner that does the work, not the mail client.
>
>-Ian
Dick probably meant that there was a bug in Outlook Express (and there
still is unless you haven't patched it or have a new version) which
would cause it to automatically launch specific MIME attachments,
which is of course enough to get you in trouble. MS have it fixed but
only because their corporate network got hit by Melissa :)
Peter Popov
ICQ: 15002700
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On Thu, 9 Sep 1999 23:34:00 -0400, "Ian Burgmyer"
<the### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>> P.S. How's come the media isn't glomming on to the fact that
>> all of the killer email virii only affect M$ mail users?
>
>Last time I got a virus, it was a CIH from a newsgroup. And I was using
>Netscape Messanger. Please explain your reasoning behind this (IMHO)
>ludicrous statement.
Well he did say e-mail viri - and M$ products to tend to have more
holes in them than some others. Aside from Peter's suggestion there's
also Word macro viruses which can, in theory (and practice if you have
your settings "just so") open up and run just from looking at the text
- and possibly without even opening the document (I'm not sure if the
Preview Pane some M$ mail clients use would activate macros under any
circumstances - silly if they did IMHO).
>It's the virus scanner that does the work, not the mail client.
>
Yup - though some are more open to abuse than others... and yes, I DO
tend to use M$ stuff myself. I also keep Norton AV relatively
up-to-date :)
Never been infected yet. Only seen a few viruses - all on
clients/friends PC's.
Cheers,
Cliff Bowman
Why not pay my 3D Dr Who site a visit at http://www.who3d.cwc.net/
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From: Ian Burgmyer
Subject: Re: Animation file formats. HAVE to be AVI or MPEG?
Date: 11 Sep 1999 21:08:02
Message: <37dafcf2@news.povray.org>
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Cliff Bowman <c.b### [at] cwcomnet> wrote in message
news:37d9e0af.43362129@news.povray.org...
> Well he did say e-mail viri - and M$ products to tend to have more
> holes in them than some others. Aside from Peter's suggestion there's
> also Word macro viruses which can, in theory (and practice if you have
> your settings "just so") open up and run just from looking at the text
> - and possibly without even opening the document (I'm not sure if the
> Preview Pane some M$ mail clients use would activate macros under any
> circumstances - silly if they did IMHO).
That really depends. Outlook Express doesn't load Word files (from what I
know), but Outlook is integrated into Word, so I believe that any E-Mail is
opened into a sub-program that, basically, IS Word, only it looks more like
a preview window.
Actually, say a determined hacker gets your friend's IP and E-Mail address,
perhaps through ICQ or a Quake server that he runs, for instance. He can
use an IP bouncer to mask his IP and use your friend's, then change the
e-mail address in his mail client and shoot you an e-mail with an attachment
of a Word document with the Melissa virus.
If you happen to use Netscape Messenger (which, the spell checker in OE
suggested 'Massager' when I spelled it wrong. hehe), and you see that your
friend e-mailed you a "funny Word document". You open the document, and
BAM! You got Melissa!
You're not truly safe no matter WHAT you use.
-Ian
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On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 21:09:49 -0400, "Ian Burgmyer"
<the### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>Cliff Bowman <c.b### [at] cwcomnet> wrote in message
>news:37d9e0af.43362129@news.povray.org...
>> Well he did say e-mail viri - and M$ products to tend to have more
>> holes in them than some others. Aside from Peter's suggestion there's
>> also Word macro viruses which can, in theory (and practice if you have
>> your settings "just so") open up and run just from looking at the text
>> - and possibly without even opening the document (I'm not sure if the
>> Preview Pane some M$ mail clients use would activate macros under any
>> circumstances - silly if they did IMHO).
>
>That really depends. Outlook Express doesn't load Word files (from what I
>know), but Outlook is integrated into Word, so I believe that any E-Mail is
>opened into a sub-program that, basically, IS Word, only it looks more like
>a preview window.
>
>Actually, say a determined hacker gets your friend's IP and E-Mail address,
>perhaps through ICQ or a Quake server that he runs, for instance. He can
>use an IP bouncer to mask his IP and use your friend's, then change the
>e-mail address in his mail client and shoot you an e-mail with an attachment
>of a Word document with the Melissa virus.
>
>If you happen to use Netscape Messenger (which, the spell checker in OE
>suggested 'Massager' when I spelled it wrong. hehe), and you see that your
>friend e-mailed you a "funny Word document". You open the document, and
>BAM! You got Melissa!
>
>You're not truly safe no matter WHAT you use.
>
Well yeah - if you open an attchment in anything (well, any attachment
that can run "code" - even a humble macro) then you're open to
viruses.
Cheers,
Cliff Bowman
Why not pay my 3D Dr Who site a visit at http://www.who3d.cwc.net/
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From: Luke Church
Subject: Re: Animation file formats. HAVE to be AVI or MPEG?
Date: 13 Sep 1999 14:07:31
Message: <37dd3d63@news.povray.org>
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2 Things.
No.1 VIRUS CHECKERS - Nav seems very good
No.2 Have word on high security so it asks you whether you want macros
active or not. Tell them not to open, look at the doc, ring your friend.
Destory document. No Problem.
I agree with the inital thread EXEs should not be used for animating, I
never look at them due to virus threat
True safety is just a deliousion anyway, just like your never truly secure
no-matter what you use, it is only degrees of safety that you have.
Luke
>You're not truly safe no matter WHAT you use.
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