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Hi All,
I have a couple of questions regarding animation files. I used to do
everything with FLI files until recently, using an old copy of DTA(1992?).
I just got the new version and it is great. I now make AVI files. They are
much more compact and are full colour. But, how can I make them loop cleanly
like a FLI. I believe this is to do with the player, it has a pause between
the end and the start when you turn on looping. Are there any players that
will cleanly loop an AVI file? Also can anyone suggest a player that stays
open after playing the file, or defaults to looping on open. I find I double
click on a file to try it and it disappears before you even see it.
Second problem, the FLI/FLC files I get from the new version of DTA won't
play in Playflc. What gives, is there a switch for DTA to make old format
FLIs or what?
Finally, I have been playing around with AVI2MPG. I can't seem to get the
same saturation of colour, and, they also won;t loop cleanly. Any hints?
Thanks
Gordon
<gbe### [at] birdcameron comau>
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Gordon wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I have a couple of questions regarding animation files. I used to do
> everything with FLI files until recently, using an old copy of DTA(1992?).
>
> I just got the new version and it is great. I now make AVI files. They are
> much more compact and are full colour. But, how can I make them loop cleanly
> like a FLI. I believe this is to do with the player, it has a pause between
> the end and the start when you turn on looping. Are there any players that
> will cleanly loop an AVI file? Also can anyone suggest a player that stays
> open after playing the file, or defaults to looping on open. I find I double
> click on a file to try it and it disappears before you even see it.
Other than the control settings in Pov I don't know if there are players
that can cleanly loop. If you have a cyclic animation where the action
ends where it started at then it's easy to have clean loops. If it ends
with objects in positions other than at their original starting point
then it takes a moment for the display to catch up with the change in
the images difference. This might be hampered on systems with low video
card memory as well because they can't buffer the input as much as a card
with more memory can.
> Second problem, the FLI/FLC files I get from the new version of DTA won't
> play in Playflc. What gives, is there a switch for DTA to make old format
> FLIs or what?
I haven't seen a diffenece but haven't used it much either.
The program I use for all of my AVI, FLI and FLC animations is a dos
program called Sea. It not only has support for animation files but
can view most image file formats plus offers support for a couple of
different sound file formats like .wav's as well. It is a very fast
loading and viewing program. Additionaly it offers image file
conversion tools, dithering, gamma correction, thumbnail utility,
and has a few image filters thrown in as extras.
While it may be a dos program it's interface is in it's own windowed
environment, it runs even faster under windows than it does in dos, and
I find is easier to browse directories of images with faster than any
windows based image program I have ever tried. I have been using it for
about three years now and doubt I'll ever give it up unless dos programs
become completely unsupported on windows platforms. It also will use a
mouse if running under windows or a mouse if a driver is loaded in dos.
Get a copy at:
http://hotfiles.zdnet.com/cgi-bin/texis/swlib/uklib/info.html?fcode=0003U4
> Finally, I have been playing around with AVI2MPG. I can't seem to get the
> same saturation of colour, and, they also won;t loop cleanly. Any hints?
No idea.
> Thanks
> Gordon
> <gbe### [at] birdcameroncomau>
--
Ken Tyler
mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net
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Thanks for the link to SEA, I'll try it out.
Gordon
Ken wrote in message <36E### [at] pacbellnet>...
>Gordon wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I have a couple of questions regarding animation files. I used to do
>> everything with FLI files until recently, using an old copy of
DTA(1992?).
>>
>> I just got the new version and it is great. I now make AVI files. They
are
>> much more compact and are full colour. But, how can I make them loop
cleanly
>> like a FLI. I believe this is to do with the player, it has a pause
between
>> the end and the start when you turn on looping. Are there any players
that
>> will cleanly loop an AVI file? Also can anyone suggest a player that
stays
>> open after playing the file, or defaults to looping on open. I find I
double
>> click on a file to try it and it disappears before you even see it.
>
> Other than the control settings in Pov I don't know if there are players
>that can cleanly loop. If you have a cyclic animation where the action
>ends where it started at then it's easy to have clean loops. If it ends
>with objects in positions other than at their original starting point
>then it takes a moment for the display to catch up with the change in
>the images difference. This might be hampered on systems with low video
>card memory as well because they can't buffer the input as much as a card
>with more memory can.
>
>> Second problem, the FLI/FLC files I get from the new version of DTA won't
>> play in Playflc. What gives, is there a switch for DTA to make old format
>> FLIs or what?
>
>I haven't seen a diffenece but haven't used it much either.
>
> The program I use for all of my AVI, FLI and FLC animations is a dos
>program called Sea. It not only has support for animation files but
>can view most image file formats plus offers support for a couple of
>different sound file formats like .wav's as well. It is a very fast
>loading and viewing program. Additionaly it offers image file
>conversion tools, dithering, gamma correction, thumbnail utility,
>and has a few image filters thrown in as extras.
> While it may be a dos program it's interface is in it's own windowed
>environment, it runs even faster under windows than it does in dos, and
>I find is easier to browse directories of images with faster than any
>windows based image program I have ever tried. I have been using it for
>about three years now and doubt I'll ever give it up unless dos programs
>become completely unsupported on windows platforms. It also will use a
>mouse if running under windows or a mouse if a driver is loaded in dos.
>
>Get a copy at:
>http://hotfiles.zdnet.com/cgi-bin/texis/swlib/uklib/info.html?fcode=0003U4
>
>> Finally, I have been playing around with AVI2MPG. I can't seem to get the
>> same saturation of colour, and, they also won;t loop cleanly. Any hints?
>
>No idea.
>
>> Thanks
>> Gordon
>> <gbe### [at] birdcameroncomau>
>
>--
>Ken Tyler
>
>mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net
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Just got SEAView. Great program. I guess I'll have to organise some more $US
cheques and register.
Thanks Again.
Gordon
Gordon wrote in message <36e604cd.0@news.povray.org>...
>Thanks for the link to SEA, I'll try it out.
>
>Gordon
>Ken wrote in message <36E### [at] pacbellnet>...
>>Gordon wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I have a couple of questions regarding animation files. I used to do
>>> everything with FLI files until recently, using an old copy of
>DTA(1992?).
>>>
>>> I just got the new version and it is great. I now make AVI files. They
>are
>>> much more compact and are full colour. But, how can I make them loop
>cleanly
>>> like a FLI. I believe this is to do with the player, it has a pause
>between
>>> the end and the start when you turn on looping. Are there any players
>that
>>> will cleanly loop an AVI file? Also can anyone suggest a player that
>stays
>>> open after playing the file, or defaults to looping on open. I find I
>double
>>> click on a file to try it and it disappears before you even see it.
>>
>> Other than the control settings in Pov I don't know if there are players
>>that can cleanly loop. If you have a cyclic animation where the action
>>ends where it started at then it's easy to have clean loops. If it ends
>>with objects in positions other than at their original starting point
>>then it takes a moment for the display to catch up with the change in
>>the images difference. This might be hampered on systems with low video
>>card memory as well because they can't buffer the input as much as a card
>>with more memory can.
>>
>>> Second problem, the FLI/FLC files I get from the new version of DTA
won't
>>> play in Playflc. What gives, is there a switch for DTA to make old
format
>>> FLIs or what?
>>
>>I haven't seen a diffenece but haven't used it much either.
>>
>> The program I use for all of my AVI, FLI and FLC animations is a dos
>>program called Sea. It not only has support for animation files but
>>can view most image file formats plus offers support for a couple of
>>different sound file formats like .wav's as well. It is a very fast
>>loading and viewing program. Additionaly it offers image file
>>conversion tools, dithering, gamma correction, thumbnail utility,
>>and has a few image filters thrown in as extras.
>> While it may be a dos program it's interface is in it's own windowed
>>environment, it runs even faster under windows than it does in dos, and
>>I find is easier to browse directories of images with faster than any
>>windows based image program I have ever tried. I have been using it for
>>about three years now and doubt I'll ever give it up unless dos programs
>>become completely unsupported on windows platforms. It also will use a
>>mouse if running under windows or a mouse if a driver is loaded in dos.
>>
>>Get a copy at:
>>http://hotfiles.zdnet.com/cgi-bin/texis/swlib/uklib/info.html?fcode=0003U4
>>
>>> Finally, I have been playing around with AVI2MPG. I can't seem to get
the
>>> same saturation of colour, and, they also won;t loop cleanly. Any hints?
>>
>>No idea.
>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Gordon
>>> <gbe### [at] birdcameroncomau>
>>
>>--
>>Ken Tyler
>>
>>mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net
>
>
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Gordon wrote:
>
> Just got SEAView. Great program. I guess I'll have to organise some more $US
> cheques and register.
>
> Thanks Again.
>
> Gordon
I'm glad you liked it.
--
Ken Tyler
mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net
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OT - Ken, do you ever sleep. You were there last night (Aus Time) and you're
still there this morning. Or maybe you are twins?
Gordon
Ken wrote in message <36E72E8F.696DB031@pacbell.net>...
>Gordon wrote:
>>
>> Just got SEAView. Great program. I guess I'll have to organise some more
$US
>> cheques and register.
>>
>> Thanks Again.
>>
>> Gordon
>
>I'm glad you liked it.
>
>--
>Ken Tyler
>
>mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net
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Gordon wrote:
>
> OT - Ken, do you ever sleep. You were there last night (Aus Time) and you're
> still there this morning. Or maybe you are twins?
>
> Gordon
My ugly evil twin brother sneaks onto the system when I'm not looking
and get's into all kinds of trouble. If it ever appears that I did or
said something offensive here in the groups you can bet he was probably
responsible for it.
--
Ken Tyler
mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net
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Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:
: My ugly evil twin brother sneaks onto the system when I'm not looking
: and get's into all kinds of trouble. If it ever appears that I did or
: said something offensive here in the groups you can bet he was probably
: responsible for it.
So who's "Mr Tyler" and who's "Ken"?
Am I right if I suppose that the ugly evil one is "Mr Tyler" and the
other one is just "Ken"?
--
main(i){char*_="BdsyFBThhHFBThhHFRz]NFTITQF|DJIFHQhhF";while(i=
*_++)for(;i>1;printf("%s",i-70?i&1?"[]":" ":(i=0,"\n")),i/=2);} /*- Warp -*/
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Nieminen Mika wrote:
> So who's "Mr Tyler" and who's "Ken"?
> Am I right if I suppose that the ugly evil one is "Mr Tyler" and the
> other one is just "Ken"?
>
I'm guessing more the 3-headed guy in that commercial where the outside
two guys ask the lady for a phone number because they lost theirs and
the guy in the middle refuses to be a part of it. Which is funny because
it's about the "middle-man" getting in the way and I don't see that to
be the problem there. Well, sorry Ken, just had to be sophomoric a
little.
As far as avi and mpg loopability goes, think you can really only count
on it under DOS or similar, not within Windows for example.
I have the a AVI to MPG sort of thing too, a set of files to extract avi
frames then encode using Cmpeg. It's not superb quality probably because
it dates back to the early 90's.
No clue about the FLI/FLC player problem, the one I have is AAPlay and
is still okay I think. Is it possible it has to do with resolution of
the animation, not typical aspect ratio?
--
omniVERSE: beyond the universe
http://members.aol.com/inversez/POVring.htm
mailto:inv### [at] aolcom?PoV
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Nieminen Mika wrote:
>
> Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:
> : My ugly evil twin brother sneaks onto the system when I'm not looking
> : and get's into all kinds of trouble. If it ever appears that I did or
> : said something offensive here in the groups you can bet he was probably
> : responsible for it.
>
> So who's "Mr Tyler" and who's "Ken"?
> Am I right if I suppose that the ugly evil one is "Mr Tyler" and the
> other one is just "Ken"?
>
> --
> main(i){char*_="BdsyFBThhHFBThhHFRz]NFTITQF|DJIFHQhhF";while(i=
> *_++)for(;i>1;printf("%s",i-70?i&1?"[]":" ":(i=0,"\n")),i/=2);} /*- Warp -*/
Who want's to know ? Do I know you. Whadda you people wannnt from me.
I'll tell you what I'm going to do to you bastaslpdkja0-9-a09-8q oj;k646
enmvmfmdkllm....
Sorry about that. That was him just now. Good thing I walked in when
I did. Never know what is going to come out of his puny brain and into
the keyboard.
As far as the Ken vs. Mr. Tyler issue goes I have found both manifestations
of this individual both friendly and courteous to others and is often seen
going out of his way to help others with nothing to gain for the effort.
No that would not be the ugle evil twin brother I was referring to. He is
neither kind nor benevolent and thoughs of such acts never occur to him.
He has more of the spam the newsgroups mentality and delights in mayhem,
disorder, and thrives in the self imposed chaos he creates for himself.
If events seem to be going in an orderly manner around him he contrives ways
to upset he balance until it matches his own sick perverted view of the world.
Anyway mom always said we shouldn't wash the families dirty laundry in public
so I will leave it alone now. It embarrasses her when I talk about him in public.
--
Ken Tyler
mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net
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