Hey Steve! You have an interesting communication paradox with Colin! It made 
me grin most widely and you oregami metafor is well choosen, but I realize 
this can be fairly frustrating most of the time. Keep it up! You have our 
wholehearted support to back you up!

Don't feel bad. It's going all right (We have not yet been yelling abuse at 
you, have we?). Being emotional is all right too if you are able to express 
it properly. I know what I am talking about, being emotional but also fairly 
closed. And, well, it sounds a bit lame, but there are just moments in time 
when everything seems to go down the drain (hey! reminds me of that Tim 
Nikias image) but my experience - for what it's worth - is that it often 
forms the preliminary to sustainable growth, spiritual insight, renewed 
strengh, whatever is needed. So, don't dispair.
[end of sermon by Rev. Thomas; congregation bows head and weeps]

Thomas

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St. wrote:
> "Markus Altendorff" <maa### [at] anthrosphinxde> wrote in message 
> news:46e3f496@news.povray.org...
> 
>>Hi Steve,
>>
>>hope you're doing better?
> 
> 
>     Illness-wise? I never was ill*. I meant in the first instance that I 
> felt bad letting all you guys down.  :o(
> 

I didn't/don't feel let down, there is nothing for you to feel bad about.

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Ok, an update for you.

  I sent that email that I received yesterday to Colint this morning, and 
now he understands.

  This is what he proposes:


 a) We have Period 1 > 8 weeks
    i) Images can be uploaded
    ii) No voting is allowed

 b) We have Period 2 > 1 week
    i) No images can be uploaded
    ii) Voting is allowed
    iii) Voting is only allowed if all images/animations are voted on.


    He can obviously do it this way, (just wish he'd grasped this in the 
first place though), but it will take a while, about 3 - 4 weeks. Now, where 
it says "We have Period 2 - 1 week", he says that this can be 2 weeks if you 
want.

     So, overall, is this what we want, and do we want 1 week or 2 weeks 
voting and commenting time?

      ~Steve~

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"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlDOTnet> wrote in message 
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>  So, don't dispair.

   Thank you Thomas for your kind thoughts. I'm ok, it's just that generally 
I can handle what life throws at me, but then something rears its ugly head 
and I know I'm absolutely powerless to do anything about it. It's 
frustrating, and it makes me feel bad and sad at the same time, and I know 
those feelings won't go away.


> [end of sermon by Rev. Thomas; congregation bows head and weeps]

    Heh, well, see, it's quips like that, that keep me smiling.   :o)

     ~Steve~



>
> Thomas
>
>

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"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:
> Ok, an update for you.
>
>   I sent that email that I received yesterday to Colint this morning, and
> now he understands.
>
>   This is what he proposes:
>
>
>  a) We have Period 1 > 8 weeks
>     i) Images can be uploaded
>     ii) No voting is allowed
>
>  b) We have Period 2 > 1 week
>     i) No images can be uploaded
>     ii) Voting is allowed
>     iii) Voting is only allowed if all images/animations are voted on.
>
>
>     He can obviously do it this way, (just wish he'd grasped this in the
> first place though), but it will take a while, about 3 - 4 weeks. Now, where
> it says "We have Period 2 - 1 week", he says that this can be 2 weeks if you
> want.
>
>      So, overall, is this what we want, and do we want 1 week or 2 weeks
> voting and commenting time?
>
>       ~Steve~

Hey Steve,

sounds like a perfect fix to me!


plenty. More time, more votes I guess.

By the way, thanks for your patience and understanding. Looks like we have a
good thing going here which can only get better and better.

Hildur

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St. wrote:
>      So, overall, is this what we want, and do we want 1 week or 2 weeks 
> voting and commenting time?
> 

Two. I would sometimes miss the one week period due to my work schedule.

  -Shay

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> St. wrote:
> >      So, overall, is this what we want, and do we want 1 week or 2 weeks
> > voting and commenting time?
> >

No worries about not getting this sorted, I am persoanlly just thankful for
the work that you have put in so far to get the site to exist and to
operate. The new resolution with Colin sounds good, particularly the
everyone who votes having to vote for all the pictures. In terms of the
question of one or two weeks for voting and commenting then I would say two
just to so as to accomodate for as many people as possible to vote and
comment.

Thanks again steve,

Malcolm

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Steve -
Thanks for keeping us posted. (unlike some other web page, I don't think I
have to mention any names) but two weeks sounds good to me for the judging
period......remember this is all voluntarily done to make this web page
work. Why make it any harder to participate and judge then it should be.
It's suppose to be fun (scratch head)......, isn't it ?.....

Thanks again Steve.
Darin

And Markus,
If we don't get a chance to vote on this first round, I would have voted
higher marks for your animation than Johns. And, thank you for the brutally
honest marks, I did deserved them. Learning new techniques like particles
and other things in pov, I let my quality slip a lot. This will improve.
OOPS this is the stills area......sorry

Darin

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dbott wrote:
> It's suppose to be fun (scratch head)......, isn't it ?.....

Hey, you've got no idea how serious fun can be :)

If anyone's counting, i'd also suggest keeping the two-weeks 
schedule for voting.

Another thing i'm unsure of - can non-participants of a 
round (who are registered members of tc-rtc) vote, too? This 
would help to get a bigger number of samples to calculate 
the votes from, and having "independent" voters would also 
make sure that a "valid" vote could be calculated even if 
the "participants-only" vote for a round is incomplete due 
to whatever reasons, and thus invalid.

> And Markus,
> If we don't get a chance to vote on this first round, I would have voted
> higher marks for your animation than Johns. And, thank you for the brutally
> honest marks, I did deserved them. Learning new techniques like particles
> and other things in pov, I let my quality slip a lot. This will improve.
> OOPS this is the stills area......sorry

Well, i'm usually starting with "10", which stands for "OK" 
in my book, and add/subtract from there, so i didn't mean 
those marks to be brutal in any way!
Apart from that, i'm using quite a different toolset for my 
animations than most of the others do, so i guess my entries 
are kind of the "odd ones out" :)

An acquaintance of mine runs a freelance recording studio in 
his basement and he's offered to try and make a dubbed 
version. In german language, with bavarian accent. I'm a bit 
scared ... last time he offered to do audio stuff, it was 
for the "IRTC: Escape" topic years ago where i was just 
hoping for some music, but ended up with sound FX on top of 
that, which was ... weird, because the text remained as mute 
subtitles :S

I guess we should really move this over to irtc.animations 
by now... :)

-M

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"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> schreef in bericht news:46e53eed@news.povray.org...
> Ok, an update for you.
>
>  I sent that email that I received yesterday to Colint this morning, and 
> now he understands.
>
>  This is what he proposes:
>
>
> a) We have Period 1 > 8 weeks
>    i) Images can be uploaded
>    ii) No voting is allowed
>
> b) We have Period 2 > 1 week
>    i) No images can be uploaded
>    ii) Voting is allowed
>    iii) Voting is only allowed if all images/animations are voted on.
>
>
>    He can obviously do it this way, (just wish he'd grasped this in the 
> first place though), but it will take a while, about 3 - 4 weeks. Now, 
> where it says "We have Period 2 - 1 week", he says that this can be 2 
> weeks if you want.
>
>     So, overall, is this what we want, and do we want 1 week or 2 weeks 
> voting and commenting time?
>

Yes, this looks good. I would suggest 2 weeks for period 2.
I would also be in favour for voting possibilities for members who have not 
submitted an image.

Thomas

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