William Tracy wrote:

> 
> http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/graphics/povray-3.5
> 
> Ubuntu has no Povray 3.6 package, only 3.5.


http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/graphics/povray-3.6

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I guess I'm a little saddened that the suggestion is to do my own
compilation.  I didn't have to do this for the Windows version or for my
knoppix box.   Could there simply be a bug in ./install?


Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:

> Greg M. Johnson wrote:
>> Greg M. Johnson wrote:
>> 
>>> There is no official POV-Ray 3.6 installed on this computer.
>> 
>> Okay, I guess I"m using the ubuntu repository version rather than the one
>> from the povray site.  It is much more advisable to get it with a package
>> installer than to roll your own, unless you know what you're doing. 
>> After several years of linux tinkering, I still don't.
>> 
> 
> Greg, it's not that difficult nor dangerous to compile your own
> executable, at least with POV-Ray. I do it for all my computers since
> version 3.5. In fact I think that I never downloaded the binaries for 3.6,
> just the sources.
> 
> Casually, I just changed from Fedora Core 6 to Ubuntu 7.10, and I just
> restored /usr/local/src/povray-3.6.1 from the backup, then made a "make
> clean" just in case, and then compiled it with:
> 
>    ./configure COMPILED_BY="Your name and address"
>    --disable-io-restrictions
> 
> Just remember to install first the basic developer packages, and make sure
> to install libX11-devel or you will not get a display...
> 
> 
> --
> Jaime

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Greg M. Johnson wrote:
> I guess I'm a little saddened that the suggestion is to do my own
> compilation.  I didn't have to do this for the Windows version or for my
> knoppix box.   Could there simply be a bug in ./install?

   In the MegaPOV install? No, the bug is almost certainly in the Debian 
version of POV-Ray, which surely installs files on non-standard places... 
that is, in places different than the official POV-Ray install. MegaPOV 
relies on these standard/official places, and I cannot see how the install 
script can cope with the infinite variations that packagers can do... :(

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Jaime

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Greg M. Johnson wrote:
> http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/graphics/povray-3.6

Wow, I am totally out of it, then.

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William Tracy
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You know you've been raytracing too long when you watch the Making of
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Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:
> Greg M. Johnson wrote:
>> I guess I'm a little saddened that the suggestion is to do my own
>> compilation.

You still don't need to compile yourself, just grab the tarball from
povray.org.

>   In the MegaPOV install? No, the bug is almost certainly in the Debian
> version of POV-Ray, which surely installs files on non-standard
> places... that is, in places different than the official POV-Ray
> install.

I wouldn't call it a bug, so much as the standard Povray installer not
quite conforming to the FHS.

What we really need is to have someone build a MegaPOV package for
Debian. Unfortunately, I don't foresee having free time to do it myself
within the next month or so. :-(

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William Tracy
afi### [at] gmailcom -- wtr### [at] calpolyedu

You know you've been raytracing too long when you watch the Making of
Mist video to see what modeler they use.
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Greg M. Johnson wrote:
> William Tracy wrote:
> 
>> http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/graphics/povray-3.5
>>
>> Ubuntu has no Povray 3.6 package, only 3.5.
> 
> 
> http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/graphics/povray-3.6

That's possibly the problem, then. The Ubuntu package is putting povray
some place that megapov isn't able to find it.

You could build both povray and megapov from scratch, which is normally
as easy as ./configure, make, ./install. Or, you can check the options
for megapov's configure, and see if there is an option available that
will let you set the path to the povray executable.

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> I wouldn't call it a bug, so much as the standard Povray installer not
> quite conforming to the FHS.

	POV's install paths try to conform as much as possible to the FHS,
but if you found some that are off-standard, please report them  :-)

	- NC

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Nicolas Calimet wrote:
>     POV's install paths try to conform as much as possible to the FHS,
> but if you found some that are off-standard, please report them  :-)

   Apparently, /usr/share/povray-3.6 is not conforming, so it was changed to 
/usr/share/povray. ;)

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Jaime

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Nicolas Calimet wrote:
>> I wouldn't call it a bug, so much as the standard Povray installer not
>> quite conforming to the FHS.
> 
>     POV's install paths try to conform as much as possible to the FHS,
> but if you found some that are off-standard, please report them  :-)

Okay, I'm being stupid.

The official Povray installer installs under /usr/local, as it should,
since it isn't part of the system's package system. The
distribution-specific packages do not, since, drumroll, they *are* part
of the system's package system.

So, this makes me wonder if it actually *would* be sane to have the
Megapov installer check for the packaged versions of POV. The above
would imply that there's really only two places that it would have to
search for things, barring distributions with weird notions of how the
system heirarchy should work.

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William Tracy
afi### [at] gmailcom -- wtr### [at] calpolyedu

You know you've been raytracing too long when you're quite happy to let
people think you're on a mission to enlighten the world - in other
words; you've stopped trying to explain what "global illumination" is.
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BTW, not only it's not hard to do the usual config/make stuff as you're likely
to only need to do it once:  most dependency binary libs are upward compatible,
so, moving on to a newer distro you only need your latest binary.  No need to
recompile.  My povray binary has already survived 3 distros! :)

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