"GrimDude" <gri### [at] netzerocom> wrote in message
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>
> MBProbe gives a different picture then the BIOS reported.
>
> The MB usually sits at about 101F, the CPU at about 89F, and the system
(VIA
> chipset) at about 75F. It doesn't seem critical to me, but what do I know?

More than I do, it tells me water should freeze on it, 32 degrees F or 0 C.
I knew I was speaking to soon thinking it would finally be the monitoring
utility that could work on this thing.  I'm beginning to think DELL took all
the sensors out.

Bob H.

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GrimDude wrote:

> Additionally, I have a small file that is causing the official Pov 3.1g to
> crash.

<snip>

> If, it renders fine, we will know that it is my system, right? :)

It crashes on my system too. If you comment out "ambient_light 0" below
the scene will render ok. Sounds like a bug but I don't know where or
why.

global_settings { max_trace_level 11 assumed_gamma 1 ambient_light 0 }

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"Ken" <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
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> > Additionally, I have a small file that is causing the official Pov 3.1g
to
> > crash.
>
> > If, it renders fine, we will know that it is my system, right? :)
>
> It crashes on my system too. If you comment out "ambient_light 0" below
> the scene will render ok. Sounds like a bug but I don't know where or
> why.
>
> global_settings { max_trace_level 11 assumed_gamma 1 ambient_light 0 }

Strange, renders without a crash here.  You both have the Athlon chips eh?
:-|

Bob H.

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"Bob H." wrote:

> Strange, renders without a crash here.  You both have the Athlon chips eh?

If running 3.1g try rendering it a few times in succession and see if
that causes it to crash. I got it to render a couple of times but not
reliably.

Yes I have an Athlon.

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Ken wrote:
> 
> "Bob H." wrote:
> 
> > Strange, renders without a crash here.  You both have the Athlon chips eh?
> 
> If running 3.1g try rendering it a few times in succession and see if
> that causes it to crash. I got it to render a couple of times but not
> reliably.
> 
> Yes I have an Athlon.

Runs perfectly fine on this Athlon 650.  (Ran it 20 times in a row
without problems).

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Strange, it crashes on my system regardless of whether ambient_light is
defined, or not.

I finally got the original scene (and the reason for this thread) to work.
The VIA 4in1 driver pack fixed that up, and this 3.1g problem isn't really a
big deal, just a curious irritation.

Thanks for all the help, all. Thanks for the offer, Gail. :)

Grim

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GrimDude wrote:
> 
> Strange, it crashes on my system regardless of whether ambient_light is
> defined, or not.
> 
> I finally got the original scene (and the reason for this thread) to work.
> The VIA 4in1 driver pack fixed that up, and this 3.1g problem isn't really a
> big deal, just a curious irritation.
> 
> Thanks for all the help, all. Thanks for the offer, Gail. :)

I'm sorry but this last reply is unacceptable. You can't come in here
crying about a major problem and then go off and fix it yourself.
What are we supposed to do now, Grim ?

Sheeeeeesh !

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My Duron650 had lots of blacks screens this summer. I see the cpu is basically
closed in by the power suppy unit and the card slots. Also Via motherboard. I
haven't heard anything good about Via...
I now got AMN Refridgerator from a PCFormat cover disk, but it's almost winter
now here...
I'm also gonna check out this MBprobe...

Nekar
--
#local N=<-20,40,100>;#local K=<20,-40,100>;#local R=seed(0);blob{#while((K-N).
x>0)#local X=N;#local N=N+<rand(R),rand(R),1>/3;#local N=(vlength(N-K)<vlength(
X-K)?N:2*X-N);sphere{<N.y,-N.x,N.z>,1,1 scale .02}sphere{N,1,1 scale.02}sphere{
<-N.x-40,N.y,N.z>1,1 scale.01}sphere{<N.x+40,-N.y,N.z>1,1 scale.01 }#end
pigment{rgbt 1}interior{media{emission <2,4,5>*5}}hollow}// Nekar Xenos
"Bob H." <omn### [at] msncom> wrote in message
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> "Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message
> news:3b0291c4@news.povray.org...
> >   Are you sure that you are not suffering from CPU temperature problems?
> > This can be sometimes the cause for crashes with CPU-intensive programs
> > (such as POV-Ray). The CPU gets warmer when it's very busy.
> >   Watch the CPU temperature with a monitoring program such as
> > http://web.bham.ac.uk/jst829/mbprobe/
>
> Sure wish one of those utilities would monitor the motherboard and sensors I
> have.  Ah ha! That one lists the i815EM!  Finally...  Thanks so much for
> posting that URL!
>
> Seems I read someplace that AMD's are run hotter than equivalent clockrate
> Intel's, the Athlon anyway.  Same for Duron?  I couldn't say, not sure
> anyhow.  My DELL notebook is a PIII at 800Mhz and I suspect it isn't wholly
> stable, but a well-fanned tower case must be very different.
>
> Bob H.
>
>
>

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Bob H. <omn### [at] msncom> wrote in message
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> And that's a good thing, right?  Guess you can't get a better 50-50
> relationship than that with fellow and fellowette POVers.  Where's a
chapel
> scene at?

http://www.rucus.ru.ac.za/~gail/Raytracing/Church.htm

> Maybe Gail isn't married.

I'm not, and no plans in that direction either.

Heading off-topic...

Gail
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BTW, Ken. Your reply helped to ease the pain I was going through. Thanks,
man.

Grim
"Ken" <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
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>
>
> GrimDude wrote:
> >
> > Strange, it crashes on my system regardless of whether ambient_light is
> > defined, or not.
> >
> > I finally got the original scene (and the reason for this thread) to
work.
> > The VIA 4in1 driver pack fixed that up, and this 3.1g problem isn't
really a
> > big deal, just a curious irritation.
> >
> > Thanks for all the help, all. Thanks for the offer, Gail. :)
>
> I'm sorry but this last reply is unacceptable. You can't come in here
> crying about a major problem and then go off and fix it yourself.
> What are we supposed to do now, Grim ?
>
> Sheeeeeesh !
>
> --
> Ken Tyler - 1400+ POV-Ray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
> http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/

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