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:)
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Hi,
For those interested in some very recent image compression test results
using various methods, formats, and programs take a look at the site listed
below.
http://act.by.net/
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Ron Parker wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:40:10 -0400, TonyB wrote:
> >This is extremely cool. This MUST be included into POV-Ray 3.5 or 4.0
> >(or at least the SuperPatch). =)
>
> I'm generally opposed to JPEG output, because it's lossy. Imagine
> if you just finished a 3-day render only to discover that the
> quality level on the output wasn't sufficient. Who would you
> blame, yourself or the guy who chose the default quality level?
> I know *I* don't want that kind of support headache. Besides,
> what does JPEG gain you that you can't get with PNG?
Hi Ron,
I dunno if you read the IMP (the Internet Movie Project) mailing lists,
but there has been a wide discussion about this issue.
Of course it can be a headache maintaining such a version and getting
complaints from reckless users, but with proper warnings (in the message
windows when the option is selected for instance as well as in the docs
and whereever the mention of JPEG is made), well with proper disclaimers
it should diminish negative feedback.
On the user's side, JPEG would make for a quicker way to get out small
byte sized images with more pixels (avoid one batch processing, one
utility less to get for the layman) and it would be way sufficient for use
in some image maps that are generated with POV.
Not all output has to be A1 perfect and not all image maps need to be A1
accurate. JPEG has positive points as well as negative points, why ignore
the positive ?
> Speaking for myself only, of course, as the current maintainer
> of the superpatch.
Do you really have to maintain and try and fix everything ?
Can you not delegate the work relating to patches by others to such others
?
Only trying to accomodate what I would like to see in POV with what you
can do, and hell do I know time is precious !
Regards,
Al.
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On Tue, 29 Jun 1999 21:16:41 +0100, Alain CULOS wrote:
>Of course it can be a headache maintaining such a version and getting
>complaints from reckless users, but with proper warnings (in the message
>windows when the option is selected for instance as well as in the docs
>and whereever the mention of JPEG is made), well with proper disclaimers
>it should diminish negative feedback.
People read the documentation and the message window? Where are these
people?
>Not all output has to be A1 perfect and not all image maps need to be A1
>accurate. JPEG has positive points as well as negative points, why ignore
>the positive ?
I guess I agree, in principle, and if people want to jpgify their output
they should be able to, but I still think it'd come back to bite whoever
implements it in terms of additional support.
>> Speaking for myself only, of course, as the current maintainer
>> of the superpatch.
>
>Do you really have to maintain and try and fix everything ?
>Can you not delegate the work relating to patches by others to such others
>?
Oh, no, of course I don't. I don't have to support everything, either, as
there are at least a few people in this group who help tremendously with
that, but until I can set up a proper CVS archive and mailing lists, it'd
be more trouble than it's worth to try to coordinate small bugfixes among
more than about two or three people. I still don't see how the POV-Team
does it. :)
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Ron Parker wrote:
> People read the documentation and the message window? Where are these
> people?
I do and I am right here !
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Ron Parker wrote:
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> People read the documentation and the message window? Where are these
> people?
>
Hey now! >:)
If JPEG output is not a default option, you'd pretty much have to RTFM to enable
it.
Margus
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Not with the Mac, where the output file type is chosen from a menu in
the file preferences dialog.
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That's what you get for making things too convenient...
Margus
Chris Huff wrote:
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> Not with the Mac, where the output file type is chosen from a menu in
> the file preferences dialog.
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On Fri, 02 Jul 1999 18:08:20 +0300, Margus Ramst <mar### [at] peak eduee>
wrote:
>That's what you get for making things too convenient...
>
>Margus
>
>Chris Huff wrote:
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>> Not with the Mac, where the output file type is chosen from a menu in
>> the file preferences dialog.
I smell the kerosene and hear the roar of the flamethrowers already...
Please don't... please...
Peter Popov
ICQ: 15002700
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Peter Popov wrote:
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> On Fri, 02 Jul 1999 18:08:20 +0300, Margus Ramst <mar### [at] peakeduee>
> wrote:
>
> >That's what you get for making things too convenient...
> >
> >Margus
> >
> >Chris Huff wrote:
> >>
> >> Not with the Mac, where the output file type is chosen from a menu in
> >> the file preferences dialog.
>
> I smell the kerosene and jear the roar of the flamethrowers already...
> Please don't... please...
>
> Peter Popov
> ICQ: 15002700
I choose my Mac's from a menu but that is at the MacDonalds resturant :)
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