Warp escreveu:

>> So, does an editor frontend similar to the one coming with POV-Ray for 
>> Windows exist for Debian Linux?
> 
>   I think there was something similar, but personally I use emacs with the
> pov-mode extension. It looks like this:
> 
> http://tag.povray.org/povQandT/EmacsPovFrontend.png

Yes, this question is probably the most asked around, and though there 
are text editors insanely more powerful and featureful than pov's one, 
like vim or emacs, most users with Windows background do not want to 
learn them or any other text editing paradigm different from notepad's.

I recommend your friend either run pov win through wine or take 30 
minutes of his life to learn the basics of vim or emacs and have much 
better text editing skills for the rest of his life.

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Le Mon, 03 Nov 2008 07:18:12 +0100, Jörg 'Yadgar' Bleimann a modifié des
petits morceaux de l'univers pour nous faire lire :

> So, does an editor frontend similar to the one coming with POV-Ray for
> Windows exist for Debian Linux?
> 
If you are ready for the full way, install eclipse and povclipse plugin.
Now, you will really need a lot of memory to get the java-eclipse running 
smoothly while rendering a big scene...

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> High!
> 
> Last weekend, my friend and I got POV-Ray working under Linux (Sidux) o
n 
> his quaternary computer... he was amazed about POV-Ray's rendering spee
d 
> compared to Windows XP, but disappointed about the spartanic editor 
> interface - when POVing, I normally use KEdit.
> 
> So, does an editor frontend similar to the one coming with POV-Ray for 

> Windows exist for Debian Linux?
> 
> See you in Khyberspace!
> 
> Yadgar

Hi !

I have developped what we could call a "comfortable" editor, you'll find 

  it herre : http://nextpe.sf.net/

Have fun with pov ;-)

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> So, does an editor frontend similar to the one coming with POV-Ray for 
> Windows exist for Debian Linux?

	Not a text editor per se, kpovmodeler might be worth a look for those
who want to get a POV GUI under Linux.  It is for KDE but should also work
under other DEs such as Gnome, provided the KDE libs are installed.  There's
already the kpovmodeler package in the Debian and related repositeries.  See
http://www.kpovmodeler.org for screenshots.

     - NC

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=?ISO-8859-15?Q?J=F6rg_=27Yadgar=27_Bleimann?= <yaz### [at] gmxde> wrote:
rface - when POVing, I normally use KEdit.
>
> So, does an editor frontend similar to the one coming with POV-Ray for
> Windows exist for Debian Linux?
>


Kate is the best. It even provides syntax highlighting for .pov files in the
same way that WinPov does.

Stay away from kpovmodeller.

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As a side note, how do I set other editors in Windows to automatically render a
file using POV-Ray? My favorite editors are Notepad++ and to a lesser extent
SciTE.

-Mike

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"SharkD" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> As a side note, how do I set other editors in Windows to automatically render a
> file using POV-Ray? My favorite editors are Notepad++ and to a lesser extent
> SciTE.
>
> -Mike

In fact, this would make a good wiki article, so if anyone has any tips on using
POV-Ray in conjunction with a (any) text editor on any platform, please post
them here.

-Mike

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"SharkD" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> "SharkD" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> > As a side note, how do I set other editors in Windows to automatically render a
> > file using POV-Ray? My favorite editors are Notepad++ and to a lesser extent
> > SciTE.
> >
> > -Mike
>
> In fact, this would make a good wiki article, so if anyone has any tips on using
> POV-Ray in conjunction with a (any) text editor on any platform, please post
> them here.
>
> -Mike

This is what I do in linux:
Use Kate, which allows for multiple tabbed files to be open.
Have one file be "zini.ini" which calls out the Input File and scene settings to
be used.
Keep one Konsole open which has a previous command of "povray zini.ini" in it.
When I want to render, I go to the Konsole, hit up arrow and enter. (That's one
extra mouse click to switch to Konsole and two keystrokes, just a little bit
less convenient than POV-Ray for Windows' "Render" button.)

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"gregjohn" <pte### [at] yahoocom> wrote:
> This is what I do in linux:
> Use Kate, which allows for multiple tabbed files to be open.
> Have one file be "zini.ini" which calls out the Input File and scene settings to
> be used.
> Keep one Konsole open which has a previous command of "povray zini.ini" in it.
> When I want to render, I go to the Konsole, hit up arrow and enter. (That's one
> extra mouse click to switch to Konsole and two keystrokes, just a little bit
> less convenient than POV-Ray for Windows' "Render" button.)

Thanks for the reply! I will create a wiki article as well as explore some of
the options on Windows once the wiki is back online.

-Mike

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SharkD wrote:

> In fact, this would make a good wiki article, so if anyone has any tips on using
> POV-Ray in conjunction with a (any) text editor on any platform, please post
> them here.

1. Get an editor that can speed up development of your scenes. Kate has 
iirc folding, tabs, and bookmarks. If you find yourself using those 
features then you will have learned something: that "fancy" editor 
features are a tremendous help. After learning that, you'll want 
something with *more* features. Wait till then, or skip to a "more 
features" editor now and save some time. Any "complex" editor should be 
fine; Select based on how you prefer to get to all of those features. 
For instance, vim uses a modal interface while emacs uses key-combinations.

2. F*** up-arrow. Up-arrow gets your hands off the home row (disastrous 
for a poor typist like myself). Control-p is better, but the Control key 
isn't easy to reach. This can be changed. In debian, you'll edit the 
/etc/X11/xorg.conf file. There's a section which will look something 
like this:

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier	"Generic Keyboard"
	Driver		"kbd"
	Option		"CoreKeyboard"
	Option		"XkbRules"	"xorg"
	Option		"XkbModel"	"pc104"
	Option		"XkbLayout"	"us"
	Option		"XkbOptions"	"ctrl:nocaps"
EndSection

WITHOUT the ctrl:nocaps line. Add the ctrl:nocaps line, restart x, and 
your useless caps lock key will become a control key. Now, instead of 
up-arrow you can press control-p (in any common terminal afaik).

You'll also like ctrl-arrow in firefox and (if you are/become a vim 
user) ctrl- [, a, x, f, and u (all used a LOT) become very comfortable.

  -Shay

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