"einarabelc5" <ein### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> "einarabelc5" <ein### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> > Hello Folks:
> >
> > I am trying to use pov ray in unix as a renderer of architectural files
> > created in 3d Studio Viz/3d Studio max.
> >
> > I've been looking for an exporter/format translator from .ase files (which
> > 3ds MAx exports)  to the .pov format. I found this:
> > http://www.tb-software.com/products.html
> >
> > It does work; I can render lights in POV ray using the .ase format from
> > 3dsmax, then importing it in 3dwin and exporting to .pov to render finally
> > in unix.
> >
> > The only thing is the render looks cartoonish, I mean like if it was using
> > the cartoon shader, which I deactivated on 3dwin when doing the exporting
> > to pov.
> >
> >
> > Do you know of any converter/exporter that does the transformation form .ase
> > to .pov effectively?
> >
> > I already tried Polytrans which exports directly to .pov but POV RAY doesn't
> > process the results...
> >
> > Also used polytrans&3dwin to try combinations of formats, the most
> > satisfactory so far is the .ase which DOES NOT require polytrans only
> > default 3ds max capabilities.
> >
> > P.S. If it works in UNIX/linux that would be a significant plus
> >
> > Many thanks in advance. (y)
> >
> > P.S.S Feel free to email me and I'll send a render of the cartoonish image
> > in comparison with the same scene rendered with NVIDIA GELATO....which is
> > kind of opaque.
> Here is the link to the renders in Gelato Forums...
>
> http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=19820
>
> So how do I post the .ase file?
>
> I could just zip it and I think that'll do it. But where do I post it? This
> newsgroup doesn't offer the chance to do attachments. I guess i'll need an
> email for that. And there's no Private messaging neither....

PLZ check here:

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?act=ST&f=3&t=19820&st=0#entry120168

Thanks.

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"einarabelc5" <ein### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message 
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<snip> ...
>> So how do I post the .ase file?
>>
>> I could just zip it and I think that'll do it. But where do I post it? 
>> This
>> newsgroup doesn't offer the chance to do attachments.
Maybe, but you can post to p.b.s-f with attachments. That's one of the 
reasons it's there. ;-)

John
-- 
"Please refrain from fondling the nymphs and sprites
- it makes them giggly and skittish.
Thank you for your co-operation.
The Management"

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"Doctor John" <doc### [at] linuxmailorg> wrote:
> "einarabelc5" <ein### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
> news:web.4534cbda6ba6d37b731777170@news.povray.org...
> <snip> ...
> >> So how do I post the .ase file?
> >>
> >> I could just zip it and I think that'll do it. But where do I post it?
> >> This
> >> newsgroup doesn't offer the chance to do attachments.
> Maybe, but you can post to p.b.s-f with attachments. That's one of the
> reasons it's there. ;-)
>
> John
> --
> "Please refrain from fondling the nymphs and sprites
> - it makes them giggly and skittish.
> Thank you for your co-operation.
> The Management"

And what's that?

Any way look at the link to the NVIDIA Forum all the needed files are there.

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"einarabelc5" <ein### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message 
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> "Doctor John" <doc### [at] linuxmailorg> wrote:
>> "einarabelc5" <ein### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
>> news:web.4534cbda6ba6d37b731777170@news.povray.org...
>> <snip> ...
>> >> So how do I post the .ase file?
>> >>
>> >> I could just zip it and I think that'll do it. But where do I post it?
>> >> This
>> >> newsgroup doesn't offer the chance to do attachments.
>> Maybe, but you can post to p.b.s-f with attachments. That's one of the
>> reasons it's there. ;-)
>>

> And what's that?

     Povray.binaries.scene-files group. You may find it easier to point a 
newsreader in the direction of news.povray.org and download the groups.

       ~Steve~

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"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:
> "einarabelc5" <ein### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
> news:web.4534fdce6ba6d37b79603dca0@news.povray.org...
> > "Doctor John" <doc### [at] linuxmailorg> wrote:
> >> "einarabelc5" <ein### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
> >> news:web.4534cbda6ba6d37b731777170@news.povray.org...
> >> <snip> ...
> >> >> So how do I post the .ase file?
> >> >>
> >> >> I could just zip it and I think that'll do it. But where do I post it?
> >> >> This
> >> >> newsgroup doesn't offer the chance to do attachments.
> >> Maybe, but you can post to p.b.s-f with attachments. That's one of the
> >> reasons it's there. ;-)
> >>
>
> > And what's that?
>
>      Povray.binaries.scene-files group. You may find it easier to point a
> newsreader in the direction of news.povray.org and download the groups.
>
>        ~Steve~

Look man I cant do that since my company firewall has blocked the outgoing
to news servers...

Now I wonder why can't you just help me out to solve my problem giving it
priority over configuring a newsreader. In the link I've posted many times
the actual ZIP files are aviable. Just go there and grab them for analysis
if you want to help me.

AGAIN THE LINK IS THIS ONE:

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=19820

Break a leg. (y)
Thanks.

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"einarabelc5" <ein### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message 
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> "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:
>> "einarabelc5" <ein### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
>> news:web.4534fdce6ba6d37b79603dca0@news.povray.org...
>> > "Doctor John" <doc### [at] linuxmailorg> wrote:
>> >> "einarabelc5" <ein### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
>> >> news:web.4534cbda6ba6d37b731777170@news.povray.org...
>> >> <snip> ...
>> >> >> So how do I post the .ase file?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I could just zip it and I think that'll do it. But where do I post 
>> >> >> it?
>> >> >> This
>> >> >> newsgroup doesn't offer the chance to do attachments.
>> >> Maybe, but you can post to p.b.s-f with attachments. That's one of the
>> >> reasons it's there. ;-)
>> >>
>>
>> > And what's that?
>>
>>      Povray.binaries.scene-files group. You may find it easier to point a
>> newsreader in the direction of news.povray.org and download the groups.
>>
>>        ~Steve~
>
> Look man I cant do that since my company firewall has blocked the outgoing
> to news servers...

     Well duh, as if I knew that, man.

>
> Now I wonder why can't you just help me out to solve my problem giving it
> priority over configuring a newsreader. In the link I've posted many times
> the actual ZIP files are aviable. Just go there and grab them for analysis
> if you want to help me.

        Help you? No.

         Bye.

       ~Steve~

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"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:
> "einarabelc5" <ein### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
> news:web.453546db6ba6d37b79603dca0@news.povray.org...
> > "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:
> >> "einarabelc5" <ein### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
> >> news:web.4534fdce6ba6d37b79603dca0@news.povray.org...
> >> > "Doctor John" <doc### [at] linuxmailorg> wrote:
> >> >> "einarabelc5" <ein### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
> >> >> news:web.4534cbda6ba6d37b731777170@news.povray.org...
> >> >> <snip> ...
> >> >> >> So how do I post the .ase file?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I could just zip it and I think that'll do it. But where do I post
> >> >> >> it?
> >> >> >> This
> >> >> >> newsgroup doesn't offer the chance to do attachments.
> >> >> Maybe, but you can post to p.b.s-f with attachments. That's one of the
> >> >> reasons it's there. ;-)
> >> >>
> >>
> >> > And what's that?
> >>
> >>      Povray.binaries.scene-files group. You may find it easier to point a
> >> newsreader in the direction of news.povray.org and download the groups.
> >>
> >>        ~Steve~
> >
> > Look man I cant do that since my company firewall has blocked the outgoing
> > to news servers...
>
>      Well duh, as if I knew that, man.
>
> >
> > Now I wonder why can't you just help me out to solve my problem giving it
> > priority over configuring a newsreader. In the link I've posted many times
> > the actual ZIP files are aviable. Just go there and grab them for analysis
> > if you want to help me.
>
>         Help you? No.
>
>          Bye.
>
>        ~Steve~


Then DO NOT MAKE ME WASTE MY TIME WITH A SOLUTION WHEN I ALREADY FOUND ONE,
THAT?S JUST USELESS INFORMATION IN THAT CASE.

OHH AND BY THE WAY IF YOU GAT PISSED THATS YOUR PROBLEM NOT MINE...GROW UP..

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On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:42:37 -0400, einarabelc5 wrote:

> OHH AND BY THE WAY IF YOU GAT PISSED THATS YOUR PROBLEM NOT MINE...GROW
> UP..

Dude, chill out.  You're the one asking for help, so it's in your best
interest to work within the established framework.  It is not in your best
interest to demand that the community bend to your will and way of
working.  That's now how online communities work.

Nobody's *entitled* to help (unless you've paid for it, that's a different
matter), and being discourteous to those who can help you is a surefire
way to get people to NOT help you.

I know after seeing this reply to St., I'd certainly not be inclined to
help you even if I had the skills or knowledge.  Getting pissed at people
who *can* help you is a surefire way to get added to a twit filter.

Often times in online communities, when asking about something, it's not
good form to post a link to another set of communities (particularly to an
attachment to a message).  Discussion ensues about the linked file, and
then the linked file disappears.  What then?  Someone sees an answer that
might work for their question, but the referenced file/image/whatever
isn't there anymore, so there's no way to find out.  So the community has
to suffer because someone couldn't figure out how to (or how to ask nicely
how to) post the file locally so it's not going to vanish at the whim of
some other systems administrator.

Another issue is that if you link to a file in a remote community, if they
require registration, well geez, now I gotta register on a site I'm never
going to use in order to help this guy out?  I don't think so - he's the
one who wants help, it's up to the guy who's asking the question to make
it convenient for me to help him out.

Whether the Nvidia forums require registration or not is completely
irrelevant, so don't even go there.  If I had to figure out each and every
different set of forums' rules for whether registration was required to
download a file/read a message/whatever for every message posted, I'd give
up and go find something else to do.  So that ain't happening.  You could
give me your login and password and I still wouldn't go there.  Too damned
much hassle when there's a completely viable and workable solution:  Post
to the group indicated where I know I can access the file.

You don't need port 119 access to post files.  If you ask nicely, maybe
someone will walk you through it so you can get the help you desire.

If you want help from an online community, you gotta work within the
framework of the community, whether you like it or not.  Berating those
who have the skills and abilities to help you is a surefire way to prevent
you from getting the help you want.

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I have to agree with you.
I wasn't pissed at Steve, he just felt aggravated for what I said. I can
post atachments ouside my company, using Outlook as a newsreader, and In
this particular case I seriously doubt Nvidia forums would go down, at
least for long, and no they dont ask you to register to see what I posted,
you can get in and do what I ask without login in.

Besides, whats in your best interest as a contributor to POV-RAY? To
developed it, so why don't look for integration with world proved, time
tested, modelers like 3dsMax/Viz, wouldn't it be great to compete against
Mental Ray, AIR, and VRAY? Still basing in GNU. I don't see the point of
helping each other if you're gonna get offended and don't find workarounds
for things. If so, then you're right, go find something better to do than
getting pissed off.

Anyways, the policies you claim are completely reasonable.
I just dont see the point of posting a question and not getting the answer
when I provided a means to you to see my questions.

Again:
Just go here:
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=19820

try to download WITHOUT LOGGING in...see what happens...

Anyway my suggestion is, once you get the means get a fully workable web
based forum system.

On other thing.

Just so you see I am accustomed to work in collaboration:

I have used these same means (NVIDIA Forums) to work with the 3D win
people(the exporter form .ASE to .POV) and they say is a problem with the
Demo version. I'm still conducting tests with them and will draw to a
conclusion soon.



Look in sourceforge.net for 3dsmax, there are some libraries in C for
developing exporting plugins. Pherhaps you expect some day to do some
professional work with 3dsmax and serve some architects/designers.

I mean Pov-RAy is already in some Grids, it supports distributed rendering
through MegaPov XRS and yes is independent from the modeler. That would be
Its biggest peak over some renderers like VRAY which needs 3dsmax/VIZ to
work.

Feel free to contact me for col### [at] einarcoutin@gmail.com

Cheers

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"einarabelc5" <ein### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message 
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>I have to agree with you.
> I wasn't pissed at Steve, he just felt aggravated for what I said.

   No, not really, it was more the way you said it. All I was doing was 
telling you what p.b.s-f is and thought that you might not be seeing it on 
the website so suggested the newsreader route (without knowing you couldn't 
access the groups whilst being at work). And then you replied to me with the 
'man' thing. ;)


 I can
> post atachments ouside my company, using Outlook as a newsreader, and In
> this particular case I seriously doubt Nvidia forums would go down, at
> least for long, and no they dont ask you to register to see what I posted,
> you can get in and do what I ask without login in.

     Yeah, I checked and the last time I looked you had 4 downloads of each 
file, so someone is interested. Maybe you'll get your answer yet.


>
> Besides, whats in your best interest as a contributor to POV-RAY? To
> developed it, so why don't look for integration with world proved, time
> tested, modelers like 3dsMax/Viz, wouldn't it be great to compete against
> Mental Ray, AIR, and VRAY? Still basing in GNU.

   Hey, try being a Wings modeller around here! I tell you, it's like 
walking on broken glass - you *have* to tread SO carefully!  ;)

  No, they're a great bunch of guys and girls, and I don't think there's one 
that hasn't helped someone else at their time of need.



 I don't see the point of
> helping each other if you're gonna get offended and don't find workarounds
> for things.


   Trust me, nobody gets offended, but that's the point, the guys around 
here do find workarounds for a lot of things from all kinds of code to the 
actual pov website - if someone knows something that will make life easier 
for someone else, it's usually shared, low level to top level and back.



 If so, then you're right, go find something better to do than
> getting pissed off.
>
> Anyways, the policies you claim are completely reasonable.

     Yep, Jim is bang on with his reply.



> I just dont see the point of posting a question and not getting the answer
> when I provided a means to you to see my questions.

   But you've had at least 4 downloads of each file, (unless it was you and 
your mates, checking on different systems).  ;)

      ~Steve~

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