Really? Hmm...well, I'll admit, I was skeptical at first about it because I had burned
into my mind that HF's were for terrains only, but actually they seem to be quite
useful for such a realistic and finite surface. I AM still skeptical about using them
for water, nuless you can tile them or something along those lines :)

One more question to run by you - do you know of a utility that will place the leaves
in locations - or any object, for that matter. I am using a simple leaf from Tree
Designer, but I have to place it by hand and that is not near as fun as I could be :)
Also, I am curious as to if Lparser includes a set of leaves or if you can include
them
in? I am not very familiar with lparser, and my tests have only given me blue
outputs? <shurg>

Happy tracing

Tim Soderstrom
TigerHawk

Ken wrote:

>   I ran a test for mostly parse time and memory use. With 19,881 height
> fields each with an image map the total parse time was 29 sec. and
> consumed about 27 megs of memory. The same HF's with a simple pigment
> parsed in the same amount of time and comsumed only 22 megs. In either
> case the render time was not at all time consuming and was actually
> surprisingly fast. The only time I imagine it would take a long time
> to render is if you were doing a VERY high resolution leaf and you
> were zoomed in tightly to get maximum detail. Otherwise distance has
> a way of cancelling out the detail so it does not take as long to render.
>
> --
> Ken Tyler -  1100+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
> http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/

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TigerHawk wrote:
> 
> Really? Hmm...well, I'll admit, I was skeptical at first about it because I had
burned
> into my mind that HF's were for terrains only, but actually they seem to be quite
> useful for such a realistic and finite surface. I AM still skeptical about using
them
> for water, nuless you can tile them or something along those lines :)
> 
> One more question to run by you - do you know of a utility that will place the
leaves
> in locations - or any object, for that matter. I am using a simple leaf from Tree
> Designer, but I have to place it by hand and that is not near as fun as I could be
:)

 Sounds tedious at best. Actually if you are not already aware of them there
are quite a few tree making macros floating around right now. Couple of them
with the right parameters look just like a branch with leaves on them and they
are configurable enough that you could easily substitute your own leaves into
the process. Take a look at either of the two links in my sig and find the
macro and include sections. The tree macro by Gilles Tran is a killer and
most likely the one you would want to start with. You might also look for
TomTree which is another tree making macro include file with some excellent
output.


> Also, I am curious as to if Lparser includes a set of leaves or if you can include
> them in? I am not very familiar with lparser, and my tests have only given me blue
> outputs? <shurg>

  Haven't messed around with it in a long time. What little bit I did
was simply modifying the existing example files to do my bidding. The
colors of course can be changed by rewriting the color definitions in
the pov files it spits out so it does not necessarily have to be blue.

-- 
Ken Tyler -  1100+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/

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Ken wrote:

> The tree macro by Gilles Tran is a killer and
> most likely the one you would want to start with.

Thanks Ken (as always). More specifically, my tree macro contains a leaf macro that
can work
independently from the tree one. It's limited but it can output an *.inc file
containing a
small mesh with the leaf. Because it's a mesh you can use it zillion time in a scene
at
little memory cost.
G.

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