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Roberto Selva wrote:



> www.arrakis.es/~pcostas.

Don't we all just LOVE non-english messages? I certainly do not.
Dear Roberto, quit the spanish. We're in an english-writing territory
here.

JK

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JK wrote:

> Roberto Selva wrote:
>


> > www.arrakis.es/~pcostas.
>
> Don't we all just LOVE non-english messages? I certainly do not.
> Dear Roberto, quit the spanish. We're in an english-writing territory
> here.
>
> JK

  He says he is looking for help from this group to write an introductory
tutorial
in the castellano language. I wonder if that is a regional dialect of spanish.
Unfortuantly the POV-Ray docs are distributed in english. I think it would
be terrible if some one couldn't use POV-Ray simply because they couldn't get
help in translating it into their native language.

K.Tyler

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JK <kla### [at] hotmailcom> writes:

> Don't we all just LOVE non-english messages? I certainly do not.

  Why? Because you do not understand them?

> Dear Roberto, quit the spanish. We're in an english-writing territory
> here.

  I hope we're not. English is certainly a good means to communicate
between countries, but noone ever sayed that povray.* should contain
only English messages. Well, you did, but who are you to say that? You
may be in an English-speaking country, but Roberto is Spanish. His
news server is probably in Spain, so the natural language for him is
Spanish. I currently work in Japan, but my news server is at home (in
France), and I would most surely reply to any question in French (I'd
at least try). As for Spanish messages (which you can understand the
gross meaning without difficulty even without having studied that
language) or German ones (same remark) or Czech or Turkish ones, I
just ignore the ones I do not understand and nobody cares.

  There is a newsgroup hierarchy for French-speaking groups,
fr.*. There, you could be flamed for posting in English. I guess there
is another hierarchy for English-speaking groups (if not, there should
be). This is a general hierarchy, and I do not remember that rules
have been posted about povray.* (and I saw the groups being created
live one morning, so I did not miss the beginning of the story). As
such, it is a free, international hierarchy. And remember that the
"universal language" does not exist, and if one had to be chosen it
would be French (just ask the UNO which one they speak).

  Be tolerant with people you do not understand, they most probably
are *not* saying bad words to you...

Roland,
French student working in Japan. And learning Japanese.
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JK wrote:
> Don't we all just LOVE non-english messages? I certainly do not.
> Dear Roberto, quit the spanish. We're in an english-writing territory
> here.
> 
> JK

This kind of intolerance is certaintly unacceptable in any forum.  Each
person's speech and language is equally valuable.  If you cannot
understand someone's post, then they were probably not trying to
communicate with you.  While a non-english post might be unacceptable in
povray.us.english.only.no.british.slang.or.any.other.dialect.please.*,
there is no reason for the man to ask for a Spanish language tutorial in
a tutorial newsgroup in Spanish...  Please cease your biggotry.

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> Roberto Selva wrote:
>


> > www.arrakis.es/~pcostas.

If you'd please excuse me, I didn't take care to read the message (since
I guessed it would be unreadable, but I guess it's pretty clear what
Roberto needs.

I've had some bad experiences with non-English 'spam' in other newsgroups
(people who didn't care what the newsgroup was about, just using it as a
general mailbox and writing in .... (?)) That's the reason I immediately
hacked in upon this one, but that was a bit rash, I suppose.

Too bad the docs aren't in Spanish, but it would really take loooots of
time to translate all that.... :-(

I hope this will improve your view of me. If it doesn't, hey all I can
say is sorry.

Greetings,
JK

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>Too bad the docs aren't in Spanish, but it would really take loooots of
>time to translate all that.... :-(
>
>I hope this will improve your view of me. If it doesn't, hey all I can
>say is sorry.
>


Hmm, I've seen povray 3.0x docs translated to french and italian
floating around on the net. Maybe there are in spanish too?

                                                                - Marco

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Yes, you can find at www.arrakis.es/~pcostas in Word 6 format.



> >Too bad the docs aren't in Spanish, but it would really take loooots o
f
> >time to translate all that.... :-(
> >
> >I hope this will improve your view of me. If it doesn't, hey all I can

> >say is sorry.
> >
>
> Hmm, I've seen povray 3.0x docs translated to french and italian
> floating around on the net. Maybe there are in spanish too?
>
>                                                                 - Marco

>
> ________________________________
>
> Marco Bonetti            no1### [at] urbanetch
> http://twysted.net/users/cippa/pov.html
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I've been trying to give text objects a halo, but
all I have gotten so far is invisible text.
I do declare the text as 'hollow', and give
it a transparent pigment. I am using POV 3.01.
First, I guess I need to know that it is possible,
and second I would really appreciate some sample
code that works. 
Since I expect that this would be a common question,
and I haven't been able to get a visible halo
and haven't seen any other question on this topic
I figure I am probably forgetting something really
basic.

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Hola--

I wrote my message both in English and in Spanish, although I don't know
Spanish (sounds contradictory; read on)




In English:

Actually, it turns out Mr. Roberto was saying he
and a group of others are working on translating
the manuals--he is not looking for a translation--
he is making one.  Good for you Roberto!  Just for
some help for you and anyone else, I translated
this to Spanish at babelfish.altavista.com
It is not perfect, but it helps a lot.  I don't
know Spanish but that's how I was able to find out
what Roberto's original message meant.

Babelfish is pretty useful--it can translate
English to Spanish, French, German, Italian,
and Portuguese--they keep making more too.
I am not suggesting that we all have to post
all our messages in every language... just realize
that this language barrier isn't necessary...

Thanks!

-- Ali.

En Espanol:







original de Roberto.


estoy sugiriendo que que todos tienen que fijar todos nuestros mensajes en

necesaria...

Gracias!

-- Ali.


Roberto Selva wrote in message <35E1F1EF.FB5FBBD0@ctv.es>...


www.arrakis.es/~pcostas.



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