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From: LanuHum
Subject: Re: Warning! Error in source Povray-3.7
Date: 15 Jun 2013 12:25:00
Message: <web.51bc9463df169dc47a3e03fe0@news.povray.org>
Le_Forgeron <jgr### [at] freefr> wrote:

>
> Add "-D" option to povray if start in blender

I look for a way how to get rid from "-d"
I have to wait for 8 hours to see what it is possible to see the first three
minutes of a render? ? ?
 You laugh, whether that?


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Warning! Error in source Povray-3.7
Date: 16 Jul 2013 15:43:19
Message: <51e5a257$1@news.povray.org>
Going back to a question that has been left unanswered:

Am 13.06.2013 22:06, schrieb LanuHum:

> Take me, please, programmers select not work toolkit with very good render
> system?

FYI, POV-Ray's roots are a lot, /lot/ older than you probably imagine. 
When the first version of POV-Ray was released, Linus Torvalds was just 
finishing school and hand't even purchased his first PC yet; fancy 
graphics on PCs (or probably any other hardware reasonably available to 
hobbyists back then) still meant drawing individual pixels by writing 
individual bytes (or sometimes even bits) directly to the graphics 
hardware - with different graphics adapters often requiring different 
treatment.

It was only ten years later that the SDL emerged, and at that time it 
was a pretty good choice. It was also a time when code size was still a 
much heavier issue than it is today, and the SDL had the advantage of 
being pretty lightweight. After all, to just display a render preview 
you don't need a sophisticated GUI toolkit like the GTK+ (which I guess 
is what you mean when you mentioned GTK).

One might argue that by now POV-Ray could have moved on to something 
more sophisticated for render preview on Linux, but obviously that would 
have required someone to invest time into it. With the current dev team 
members being mostly Windows-focused, this simply hasn't happened yet. 
(It's also probably not worth the effort anymore; due to licensing 
issues with an important library the Windows GUI needs major work 
anyway, and the dev team will probably take the opportunity to move 
towards a cross-platform GUI toolkit.)

> Lamer!

I'm not sure whether you know how rude (and inappropriate) this comment is.


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From: LanuHum
Subject: Re: Warning! Error in source Povray-3.7
Date: 19 Jul 2013 16:20:01
Message: <web.51e99e2ddf169dc47a3e03fe0@news.povray.org>
clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:

>
> > Lamer!
>
> I'm not sure whether you know how rude (and inappropriate) this comment is.

I-lamer! You incorrectly understood. :)
The first Povray is written for Windows,Then it ported in Linux?
Sorry!
I noticed how developers of linux programs changed the direction in Windows.
Whether there was povray in Windows popular?
But, it - not the main thing!
The main thing that questions are ignored.
The scene with povray cube isn't equal to a scene with mesh cube. It doesn't
matter windows or linux.
I had opportunity to test povray in windows.
Very inconvenient use calculated on manual editing.
Povray in linux is in the best situation.
It isn't necessary to speak about lack of time to write three lines of a code.
There is no time, don't disturb users.
Undertook to write - make a code correctly.
Look:
http://news.povray.org/povray.newusers/thread/%3Cweb.51beaaafb66eb0d77a3e03fe0%40news.povray.org%3E/

I killed 2 months, a problem didn't solve. Who considers my time?
In tutorial:
 global_settings
 { photons
   { count 20000
     media 100
   }
 }

Render 11 minutes

In my scene render 59 minutes
look:
http://yadi.sk/d/9AS7Uv9770OaS
Whom to ask why so occurs? Developers have no time


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Warning! Error in source Povray-3.7
Date: 19 Jul 2013 17:36:08
Message: <51e9b148$1@news.povray.org>
Am 19.07.2013 22:14, schrieb LanuHum:

> You incorrectly understood. :)

I must confess that I do have a difficult time understanding what you write.

> The first Povray is written for Windows,Then it ported in Linux?

Originally POV-Ray was actually written for DOS (and other platforms, 
such as the Amiga); I don't know which happened earler, the porting from 
DOS to Windows or from DOS to Linux.

Nowadays, most portions of the POV-Ray code are platform-independent, 
and most changes affect those portions; the developers typically test 
those changes in the Windows version first, and only later verify that 
they also work in the Linux and Mac OS versions, but there is no actual 
"porting" involved: If the changes don't work in the Linux version right 
from the start then there's something fundamentally wrong with the change.

> The main thing that questions are ignored.

To be honest, it might have to do with your English. Please don't take 
offense, but your English is really hard to understand. I see that 
people did answer to your postings; please have patience with them if 
their answers were not sufficient for you, and ask again; make sure to 
rephrase your questions, give plenty of details, and whenever you post 
again after having tried out some changes, let the people know exactly 
what you tried (full scene code is best) - everything that might help 
people understand what your problem really is.


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From: LanuHum
Subject: Re: Warning! Error in source Povray-3.7
Date: 20 Jul 2013 01:00:02
Message: <web.51ea17f4df169dc47a3e03fe0@news.povray.org>
clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
> Am 19.07.2013 22:14, schrieb LanuHum:
>
> > You incorrectly understood. :)
>
> I must confess that I do have a difficult time understanding what you write.
>

>
> > The main thing that questions are ignored.
>
> To be honest, it might have to do with your English. Please don't take
> offense, but your English is really hard to understand. I see that
> people did answer to your postings; please have patience with them if
> their answers were not sufficient for you, and ask again; make sure to
> rephrase your questions, give plenty of details, and whenever you post
> again after having tried out some changes, let the people know exactly
> what you tried (full scene code is best) - everything that might help
> people understand what your problem really is.


Thanks!
I will try!


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From: LanuHum
Subject: Re: Warning! Error in source Povray-3.7
Date: 7 Feb 2016 17:20:01
Message: <web.56b7c242df169dc47a3e03fe0@news.povray.org>
Clipka, Jerome!
In vain you ignored me.
Didn't want on good, will be to you on bad
I study ocaml, I will write raytracing.
Was you 7 here, will be 3.5
I'm Russian!
It is better to be on friendly terms with me, than to be at war.
To a meeting in the battlefield that there is raytracing.
I could attach the Blender to Povray, I will be able to untie you from Povray.
We will conclude a bet, or you so will believe?
It wasn't pleasant to me that you ignore me. You it is cleverer than me?
Go you to hell
Thanks! Hellow! Good By!
I will take away algorithms from Istman
I will transfer them to highly productive code.
You not the cleverest if you don't want to conduct dialogue with me.
Once again excuse. You expressed disrespect for me, I to you will answer the
same.
I will drown your Poser To which you worship
Farewell!
As Khrushchev in the UN once told, I to you will show to a kuzkin mother.
:) :) :)


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From: LanuHum
Subject: Re: Warning! Error in source Povray-3.7
Date: 7 Feb 2016 17:55:01
Message: <web.56b7caabdf169dc47a3e03fe0@news.povray.org>
You are mistaken if considers himself the cleverest. People have to be on
friendly terms, you don't want to be on friendly terms
I considered that everyone can perform the work, but I have to work for you.
Thanks!
You didn't write Povray-001, and, not to you to solve what will be Povray 399
You want that was on yours, and I want that was in my opinion.
That do you want? To become idols from Easter Island? I already prepare a stone
from which I will turn your figures!
Go to people to a navtrech if the Sansara wheel to you is thin. If isn't
present, then write raytracing 2 frames a year
You have strong arguments for an animtion, and you try to compete to lux-render
It isn't necessary for you!


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Warning! Error in source Povray-3.7
Date: 7 Feb 2016 19:16:42
Message: <56b7de6a$1@news.povray.org>
Am 07.02.2016 um 23:52 schrieb LanuHum:
> [rant rant rant rant rant...]

I'm sorry, but the above is really everything I understand from your
postings. That's how bad your English is, and that is why I tended to
not respond to your posts.

Also, why the sudden ranting? A night of too much vodka?


Somewhere in your post I sense that you are discontent with how we
develop the current version of POV-Ray. You seem to try to express that
since we didn't write the original version of POV-Ray, we wouldn't have
the right to decide the future of POV-Ray.

Well, the future of POV-Ray has always been decided by whoever was
writing the code, or whoever was piecing together an official version
from code written by other contributors. Originally that was David K.
Buck (when POV-Ray was still DKB-Trace), later it was a dev team around
Chris Cason, and at present I'm the one with the most time and energy
available to invest into POV-Ray, so I guess that /does/ give me the
right (and responsibility) to influence where POV-Ray is heading /at
present/. Should someone else take over the bulk of development work
some time in the future, then it'll be up to them to make such decisions
/from then on/.

It would be a different thing if anyone paid me for the time and energy
I invest. But I don't see that happening.


From your post I get the impression that you are trying to say "you will
be sorry for this", but I am unable to understand any details, so I have
not much of a clue what we did wrong to feel sorry for, or how you
intend to make us feel sorry for it.

I somehow get the impression that you intend to cease work on your
unofficial Blender-to-POV-Ray exporter. Please let me tell you that
although I virtually never commented on it, and although I do not use
Blender myself, I do consider it a most valuable contribution.

However, if your posting is intended as a threat or the announcement of
some punishment, don't hesitate to get lost. I do not consider threat or
punishment a good basis for any type of cooperaton, and would rather
lose valuable contributions than to endure such a destructive form of
person-to-person interaction.


I may be totally misunderstanding you -- I have no way of knowing,
because your English is, unfortunately, exceptionally bad.


As for other input to the POV-Ray project, I must say that in many cases
your style of writing comes across to me as rude and ranting, while I
understand little of what you actually want to say. Your poor English
is, unfortunately, a big barrier there as well, and from my side there
is little I can do to overcome it. Please be aware that I might
occasionally take home a few ideas from your posts even if I don't
answer. Also, please do not expect me to answer on a regular basis,
because trying to understand your posts tends to tire me out real quick,
so I try to avoid getting engaged in any discussion with you.

Please do not take this as a sign of disrespect -- this is simply a
matter of protecting myself from too much frustration. I really have a
lot of difficulty trying to understand what you are trying to say, and
what emotions you are trying to express. And if there's one thing that
/really/ frustrates me, it's failing to understand something.


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From: LanuHum
Subject: Re: Warning! Error in source Povray-3.7
Date: 8 Feb 2016 12:20:01
Message: <web.56b8cd22df169dc47a3e03fe0@news.povray.org>
clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
> Am 07.02.2016 um 23:52 schrieb LanuHum:
> > [rant rant rant rant rant...]
>
> I'm sorry, but the above is really everything I understand from your
> postings. That's how bad your English is, and that is why I tended to
> not respond to your posts.
>


I well understand that here nobody understands me. :):):)
I try to be silent.
I don't know why online translators so badly work.
I joked.
Today New year in the east.
I congratulate all on a year of a fiery monkey!
It was understood?
:):):)

Sorry, that I can't be the witness.


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Warning! Error in source Povray-3.7
Date: 8 Feb 2016 16:03:15
Message: <56b90293$1@news.povray.org>
Am 08.02.2016 um 18:15 schrieb LanuHum:
> clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
>> Am 07.02.2016 um 23:52 schrieb LanuHum:
>>> [rant rant rant rant rant...]
>>
>> I'm sorry, but the above is really everything I understand from your
>> postings. That's how bad your English is, and that is why I tended to
>> not respond to your posts.
>>
> 
> 
> I well understand that here nobody understands me. :):):)
> I try to be silent.
> I don't know why online translators so badly work.
> I joked.
> Today New year in the east.
> I congratulate all on a year of a fiery monkey!
> It was understood?
> :):):)

Is that some traditional prank day in the East, like April Fools' day in
western culture?
I guess you got me there.

> Sorry, that I can't be the witness.

And once again I don't know what you mean to say by this. :)
*Sigh!*


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