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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: how to integrate povray into Maya
Date: 11 Nov 2009 13:27:40
Message: <4afb021c$1@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:
> Nicolas Alvarez escreveu:
>> nemesis wrote:
>>> did you drop the media inside the torii?  Post the changes, man!  if you
>>> feel like it, that is.  It's not GPL'd... :D
>> 
>> Hmm interesting. If I make a GPL scene, and some modifies it and posts a
>> rendered image of it, does it count as a "binary" of the scene, making
>> him legally required to post corresponding source, or is it just the
>> result of running the program?
> 
> http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html

How informative, as if I hadn't read it :)

A .pov is the source code, but is a rendered image "object code", or is it 
just the program's output?


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: how to integrate povray into Maya
Date: 11 Nov 2009 15:16:03
Message: <4afb1b83$1@news.povray.org>
Nicolas Alvarez escreveu:
> nemesis wrote:
>> Nicolas Alvarez escreveu:
>>> nemesis wrote:
>>>> did you drop the media inside the torii?  Post the changes, man!  if you
>>>> feel like it, that is.  It's not GPL'd... :D
>>> Hmm interesting. If I make a GPL scene, and some modifies it and posts a
>>> rendered image of it, does it count as a "binary" of the scene, making
>>> him legally required to post corresponding source, or is it just the
>>> result of running the program?
>> http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html
> 
> How informative, as if I hadn't read it :)
> 
> A .pov is the source code, but is a rendered image "object code", or is it 
> just the program's output?



(the final image, the Gimp, a book etc)


in a fashion requiring copyright permission, other than the making of an 
exact copy.


the Program.

(my original image and another based on it are both covered works by the 
license)


parties to make or receive copies.



work.

(the povray scene file.  The resulting image would be "object code" in 
this case:  harder to modify, only with image manipulation software)

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From: scott
Subject: Re: how to integrate povray into Maya
Date: 12 Nov 2009 04:14:33
Message: <4afbd1f9@news.povray.org>
>> did you drop the media inside the torii?  Post the changes, man!  if you
>> feel like it, that is.  It's not GPL'd... :D
>
> Hmm interesting. If I make a GPL scene, and some modifies it and posts a
> rendered image of it, does it count as a "binary" of the scene, making him
> legally required to post corresponding source, or is it just the result of
> running the program?

I'll just say I rewrote it myself from scratch :-P


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: how to integrate povray into Maya
Date: 12 Nov 2009 11:34:33
Message: <4afc3919$1@news.povray.org>
scott escreveu:
>>> did you drop the media inside the torii?  Post the changes, man!  if you
>>> feel like it, that is.  It's not GPL'd... :D
>>
>> Hmm interesting. If I make a GPL scene, and some modifies it and posts a
>> rendered image of it, does it count as a "binary" of the scene, making 
>> him
>> legally required to post corresponding source, or is it just the 
>> result of
>> running the program?
> 
> I'll just say I rewrote it myself from scratch :-P

it leads to some very philosophical discussions indeed.  Like, my povray 
scene emulates a Mental Ray scene.  Can I even GPL it?

no, I'm not in the mood to think about the consequences... Darren? :)

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: how to integrate povray into Maya
Date: 12 Nov 2009 11:45:33
Message: <4afc3bad$1@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:
> no, I'm not in the mood to think about the consequences... Darren? :)

Me??

I'm much more interested in the economics of the GPL than the legalese.

That said, if you're intentionally copying a copyrighted image, you're 
probably violating the copyright on the original image. Even if you see 
someone's POV image and paint an oil-and-canvas painting of it, yes?

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: how to integrate povray into Maya
Date: 12 Nov 2009 12:00:01
Message: <web.4afc3e155fcaf145773c9a3e0@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> nemesis wrote:
> > no, I'm not in the mood to think about the consequences... Darren? :)
>
> Me??

see, he's quick! :)

> That said, if you're intentionally copying a copyrighted image, you're
> probably violating the copyright on the original image. Even if you see
> someone's POV image and paint an oil-and-canvas painting of it, yes?

oh well, it happens everytime.  Pictures found on Google or elsewhere almost
always serve as reference pictures for study and all...


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