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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Art (not Jack)
Date: 4 Dec 2017 03:03:10
Message: <5a25013e$1@news.povray.org>
On 3-12-2017 15:27, Bald Eagle wrote:
> I may have to watch this again later over a beverage.  :D
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea39dHj01yc

Cow droppings, as far as I can judge. I suppose the author takes himself 
very seriously but I would not hire him as an art critic.

> 
> 
> Following up on that, I found this a very interesting, good read:
> 
>
https://atlassociety.org/objectivism/students/students-blog/3671-why-art-became-ugly?highlight=WyJhcnQiLCJhcnQncyIsImJl
> YXV0eSJd
> 

Looking at art at large through a microscope. Art was (20th c.) and is 
much more and more diversified than that.

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Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Art (not Jack)
Date: 4 Dec 2017 04:37:07
Message: <5a251743@news.povray.org>
On 03/12/2017 23:51, Bald Eagle wrote:
> Ive <ive### [at] lilysoftorg> wrote:
> 
>> I can't believe you did post a video by this asshole, neo-nazi and
>> chemtrail believer P.J. Watson. Shame on you.
> 
> Well, there it is, plain as day - so suspend your disbelief.
> 
> I have no idea who PJ Watson is, and as the video was about "art" and not
> National Socialists or chemtrails, I don't really care who he is.
> Whatever else he's done, I'm pretty sure I can get over it and just enjoy the
> video for what it is.
> 
> It seemed more to me like he was calling out the actual assholes in "the art
> world" - much like those at Retraction Watch call out the asshole frauds and
> liars in science and medicine.  Regardless of your subjective view of the
> messenger, I thought he had some solid, valid points in his message.
> 

He might have but I didn't get that far. His delivery offended my 
sensibilities.


> Plus, it's entertainment. Like many famous comedians, actors, etc - _sometimes_
> "being an asshole" is an asset - it adds to the comedy.
> 

You should have said it was a comedy.

> And I did watch it a second time - and it was just as funny to me as the first
> time!   :D
> 
> And, btw,
> I think Stephen scarred Clipka with his last video link - but I have to say that
> aside from "WTF", I kinda laughed pretty hard at that one too.   It was like
> some sad example of Japan following in the footsteps of The Spice Girls...
> 

:)
With a homage to the USA.

It is your fault, I think. (I am a bit distracted atm.) It was the first 
result I got when I googled "yum yum yum"
I have a collection if WTF songs in my mind. Should I share? ;)

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Regards
     Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Art (not Jack)
Date: 4 Dec 2017 04:40:23
Message: <5a251807$1@news.povray.org>
On 04/12/2017 08:03, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> 
> Looking at art at large through a microscope. Art was (20th c.) and is 
> much more and more diversified than that.

Well "art" means different things to different people.
Not many people call me an artist unless they look at my images through 
a telescope the wrong way round.

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Regards
     Stephen


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From: Ive
Subject: Re: Art (not Jack)
Date: 4 Dec 2017 06:10:41
Message: <5a252d31@news.povray.org>
Am 12/3/2017 um 19:16 schrieb Stephen:
> On 03/12/2017 16:44, Ive wrote:
>> Am 12/3/2017 um 15:27 schrieb Bald Eagle:

>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea39dHj01yc
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I can't believe you did post a video by this asshole, neo-nazi and 
>> chemtrail believer P.J. Watson. Shame on you.
>>
> 
> Strong words there Ive.

Well, he believes in a Jewish-world-conspiracy and is a active member in 
the "new right" movement. There he positions himself and this is not my 
"subjective view" as BaldEagle seems to believe.


> I managed to make it past "my two year old could do better than that". 
> But not past the two minute mark.

I didn't even bother to watch it. I'm sure an uneducated former toilet 
cleaner (sic!) has nothing to say about art that is of any interest to me.
I do know about P.J. Walker (and watched a few videos of him) because he 
is a role model for our local "truther" and conspiracy theorist.
This one does actually believe that the world is hollow - well this is't 
really new, we all know that there is a secret entrance at the south 
pole and Hitler and Braun where evacuated there - together with the 
German "Wunderwaffen". But what left me quite speechless for a while, he 
also thinks we are living inside this hollow earth where the sun is a 
small ball in the exact center.
While this might sound funny - it is not so funny that he is also a 
straightforward racist. For sure, the government, astronomers, 
scientists, the NASA anyway, are all jewish infiltrated liars.
It is also not very funny that he already convinced a few younger people 

militia) within our small village.
Meanwhile I only have a laugh about this kind of stupidity when it is my 
cynical afternoon (every 1st Thursday and 3rd Friday in a month).

-Ive


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Art (not Jack)
Date: 4 Dec 2017 06:31:06
Message: <5a2531fa$1@news.povray.org>
On 04/12/2017 11:09, Ive wrote:
> Am 12/3/2017 um 19:16 schrieb Stephen:
>> On 03/12/2017 16:44, Ive wrote:
>>> Am 12/3/2017 um 15:27 schrieb Bald Eagle:
>>>> I may have to watch this again later over a beverage.  :D
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea39dHj01yc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I can't believe you did post a video by this asshole, neo-nazi and
>>> chemtrail believer P.J. Watson. Shame on you.
>>>
>>
>> Strong words there Ive.
>
> Well, he believes in a Jewish-world-conspiracy and is a active member in
> the "new right" movement. There he positions himself and this is not my
> "subjective view" as BaldEagle seems to believe.
>
>
>> I managed to make it past "my two year old could do better than that".
>> But not past the two minute mark.
>
> I didn't even bother to watch it. I'm sure an uneducated former toilet
> cleaner (sic!) has nothing to say about art that is of any interest to me.
> I do know about P.J. Walker (and watched a few videos of him) because he
> is a role model for our local "truther" and conspiracy theorist.
> This one does actually believe that the world is hollow - well this is't
> really new, we all know that there is a secret entrance at the south
> pole and Hitler and Braun where evacuated there - together with the
> German "Wunderwaffen". But what left me quite speechless for a while, he
> also thinks we are living inside this hollow earth where the sun is a
> small ball in the exact center.
> While this might sound funny - it is not so funny that he is also a
> straightforward racist. For sure, the government, astronomers,
> scientists, the NASA anyway, are all jewish infiltrated liars.
> It is also not very funny that he already convinced a few younger people

> militia) within our small village.

Thanks and now I know more than I ever wanted to know.
Personally I am against social media as it is and think the media 
companies should be treated the same as print media. Subject to the same 
laws of libel.

> Meanwhile I only have a laugh about this kind of stupidity when it is my
> cynical afternoon (every 1st Thursday and 3rd Friday in a month).
>

The inverse of me, then. I believe everything I read/hear on a few days 
of the year. ;)


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Regards
     Stephen


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From: Bald Eagle
Subject: Re: Art (not Jack)
Date: 4 Dec 2017 08:15:01
Message: <web.5a2549679a92cd8dc437ac910@news.povray.org>
Ive <ive### [at] lilysoftorg> wrote:

> Well, he believes in a Jewish-world-conspiracy and is a active member in
> the "new right" movement. There he positions himself and this is not my
> "subjective view" as BaldEagle seems to believe.

I don't follow all of this alt-right new-right whatever stuff.

I'll post videos by intelligent, reasoning, well-spoken (and jewish) Ben Shapiro
instead.
Or maybe Thomas Sowell and Morgan Freeman.

> This one does actually believe that the world is hollow -

Right - there was that documentary about that and everything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF8Bf1d_crk



See, that's just ludicrous.
Everyone knows the world is FLAT and things move around in the sky on the dome
of the heavens.   The evidence is _simple_ and ...  "all around you".   ;)


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Art (not Jack)
Date: 4 Dec 2017 08:45:58
Message: <5a255196$1@news.povray.org>
On 04/12/2017 13:11, Bald Eagle wrote:
> See, that's just ludicrous.
> Everyone knows the world is FLAT and things move around in the sky on the dome
> of the heavens.   The evidence is_simple_  and ...  "all around you".;)

True, I even did a cyclic video about it for the October-January 2004 
IRTC. ;)

https://youtu.be/7kN1u4OEGQQ

-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Bald Eagle
Subject: Re: Art (not Jack)
Date: 4 Dec 2017 09:25:01
Message: <web.5a255a559a92cd8dc437ac910@news.povray.org>
Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:

> True, I even did a cyclic video about it for the October-January 2004
> IRTC. ;)

lol

Shouldn't you update that to have a --- Grateful Dead soundtrack?

:D


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Art (not Jack)
Date: 4 Dec 2017 10:25:06
Message: <5a2568d2$1@news.povray.org>
Am 04.12.2017 um 10:37 schrieb Stephen:

> It is your fault, I think. (I am a bit distracted atm.) It was the first
> result I got when I googled "yum yum yum"
> I have a collection if WTF songs in my mind. Should I share? ;)

Uh... no, not necessary, thank you very much. You know, with all the
world becoming ever more egoistic, I think it would be unfair of us to
expect you to share... ;)


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Art (not Jack)
Date: 4 Dec 2017 10:39:24
Message: <5a256c2c$1@news.povray.org>
On 04/12/2017 15:25, clipka wrote:
> Am 04.12.2017 um 10:37 schrieb Stephen:
> 
>> It is your fault, I think. (I am a bit distracted atm.) It was the first
>> result I got when I googled "yum yum yum"
>> I have a collection if WTF songs in my mind. Should I share? ;)
> 
> Uh... no, not necessary, thank you very much. You know, with all the
> world becoming ever more egoistic, I think it would be unfair of us to
> expect you to share... ;)
> 

But my wife says that why should be the only one...  ;)

-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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