> It's just that after 6 games (which means something like 200-300 hours
> of gameplay in total) what's essentially the same game gets tiresome.

Depends on the game IME. If it's the sort of game you "complete" in a 
few 10s of hours (with no decent multiplayer mode) then there is limited 
scope to enjoy it for much longer after that. OK you can come back to it 
and play it through again at some point, maybe find a couple of 
different ways of doing things if you're lucky, or find some bonus or 
extra missions (depends on the game).

Open ended games with no "end" would seem to be more suited for 300+ 
hours enjoyment. Things like multiplayer FPS games might fit that (not 
that I'm interested in those) or racing/flight simulator type games. I'm 
also pretty sure my sister has spent getting on for 300 hours on some 
sort of brightly coloured shape matching game on her phone :-)

Post a reply to this message

Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> Tim Cook <z99### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> > Why are people so hard on the setting aspect of things?  I should think
> > it's more worthwhile to convincingly establish new environments to
> > immerse one's self in rather than stapling on arbitrary bells and
> > whistles or convoluted mechanics in the name of having sufficiently
> > different gameplay.
>
> It's just that after 6 games (which means something like 200-300 hours
> of gameplay in total) what's essentially the same game gets tiresome.
>
> I think that if I were to buy the game, it would be mostly because of
> the visuals.
>
> --
>                                                           - Warp

isn't that why we're not playing atari anymore?  I mean, there are people who
buy new hardware just to play the latest Mario or Fifa games and these have the
same gameplay forever...

Post a reply to this message

> (Actually this is pretty much the same with the mouse, even though
> we usually don't realize it. Put a person who has *never* used a
> mouse to play a first-person shooter, and they will have even a
> harder time than you have with the controller. And it does take
> quite some time to get used to the mouse. Depending on the person,
> of course, but it can take months. The mouse is, however, much
> easier to master.)

Using a mouse for 2D pointing tasks on a daily basis for the last 25 
years probably helps too :-)

Post a reply to this message

On 24/11/2014 09:31 AM, Tim Cook wrote:
> As long as different settings /are/ different (beyond reskinning the
> same meshes), and games don't encompass all possible settings on one
> swell foop, this will (to me) be a legitimate variation on a game's design.

AC1 was the Crusades, and I liked it a lot. The gameplay got a little 
repetitive, but it was a good game.

AC2 was somewhere in Italy, and it's very hard to take comedy Italian 
accents seriously. Still, the game had much more variation. (The whole 
town renovation bit was a tad unnecessary though.)

 From what I've seen, the next THREE games are all the same guy, in the 
same setting. And that's why I haven't bought any of them. I don't want 
to go to Italy again; I want to go somewhere different.

(And yes, the game is now a series, so every episode has to end with 
nothing resolved so that the inevitable next game has a story to tell...)

Who knows? Maybe if the games get cheap enough, I might buy one.

(Oh yeah, I forgot: can't buy them on Steam either. That's gotta be 
another big reason why I didn't purchase...)

Post a reply to this message

On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 20:01:19 +0200, Orchid Win7 v1 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

> On 24/11/2014 09:31 AM, Tim Cook wrote:
>> As long as different settings /are/ different (beyond reskinning the
>> same meshes), and games don't encompass all possible settings on one
>> swell foop, this will (to me) be a legitimate variation on a game's  
>> design.
>
> AC1 was the Crusades, and I liked it a lot. The gameplay got a little  
> repetitive, but it was a good game.
>
> AC2 was somewhere in Italy, and it's very hard to take comedy Italian  
> accents seriously. Still, the game had much more variation. (The whole  
> town renovation bit was a tad unnecessary though.)
>
>  From what I've seen, the next THREE games are all the same guy, in the  
> same setting. And that's why I haven't bought any of them. I don't want  
> to go to Italy again; I want to go somewhere different.
>
> (And yes, the game is now a series, so every episode has to end with  
> nothing resolved so that the inevitable next game has a story to tell...)
>
> Who knows? Maybe if the games get cheap enough, I might buy one.
>
> (Oh yeah, I forgot: can't buy them on Steam either. That's gotta be  
> another big reason why I didn't purchase...)

Have you tried Insurgency? I hear some CS players like it for a change of  
scenery.

-- 
-Nekar Xenos-

Post a reply to this message