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http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/07/how-digital-detectives-deciphered-stuxnet/all/1
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"Kevin Wampler" <wam### [at] u washingtonedu> wrote in message
news:4e1f7a74$1@news.povray.org...
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http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/07/how-digital-detectives-deciphered-stuxnet/all/1
That was really interesting, thanks!
Cheers Dre
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OK, that's pretty freaky, right there.
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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Interesting article on the Stuxnet virus
Date: 15 Jul 2011 11:31:09
Message: <4e205d3d@news.povray.org>
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet
"My opinion is that the Mossad is involved but that the leading force is
not Israel. The leading force behind Stuxnet is the cyber superpower -
there is only one; and that's the United States."
Um, WTF?
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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Interesting article on the Stuxnet virus
Date: 15 Jul 2011 11:52:20
Message: <4e206234@news.povray.org>
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One writer points out a list of mysteries about Stuxnet. Mystery #6
being "why would anyone be running Windows in a nuclear facility in the
first place?"
LOL!
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On 7/15/2011 8:52, Invisible wrote:
> One writer points out a list of mysteries about Stuxnet. Mystery #6 being
> "why would anyone be running Windows in a nuclear facility in the first place?"
They're running Windows to run the proprietary device drivers that program
the hardware. It's the same reason people run Windows in coke machines and ATMs.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
"Coding without comments is like
driving without turn signals."
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Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> One writer points out a list of mysteries about Stuxnet. Mystery #6
> being "why would anyone be running Windows in a nuclear facility in the
> first place?"
If you need industrial-grade centrifuges, and the manufacturer of those
centrifuges only makes control software for Windows, what are you going to
do? Run it in Wine?
I'm assuming that even if Windows crashes, that will not cause malfunction
on those centrifuges (or whatever else they are controlling from Windows).
The software probably has more like a setupping/monitoring functionality than
a more active role. Hopefully.
--
- Warp
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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Interesting article on the Stuxnet virus
Date: 16 Jul 2011 03:34:48
Message: <4e213f18@news.povray.org>
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On 16/07/2011 07:13 AM, Warp wrote:
> If you need industrial-grade centrifuges, and the manufacturer of those
> centrifuges only makes control software for Windows, what are you going to
> do? Run it in Wine?
This is why our lab uses Windows software. (Despite at least two people
constantly whining that everything would be *so* much better if we did
everything with Macs.)
> I'm assuming that even if Windows crashes, that will not cause malfunction
> on those centrifuges (or whatever else they are controlling from Windows).
> The software probably has more like a setupping/monitoring functionality than
> a more active role. Hopefully.
Indeed. It appears the Windows software programs and monitors various
hardware microcontrollers. (And the machines aren't Internet accessible.)
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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On 7/15/2011 23:13, Warp wrote:
> The software probably has more like a setupping/monitoring functionality than
> a more active role. Hopefully.
It's generally that, plus the microcode programmer. It's like having
software that burns ROMs for industrial machines only work on Windows,
regardless of what you use the ROMs for. Or corrupting the Windows telnet
client so it sends hidden commands to the device you're telnetting into to
configure.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
"Coding without comments is like
driving without turn signals."
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Kevin Wampler <wam### [at] uwashingtonedu> wrote:
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http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/07/how-digital-detectives-deciphered-stuxnet/all/1
Stuxnet was really a professional virus with Millons of dollars involved. There
are many others around, about 1-2 Mio new viruses per quarter. Personally I
always perform an online virus check before downloading anything, by favorite
sites are
http://www.bitdefender.com/scanner/online/free.html
http://www.findfiles.net/antivirus
http://www.pandasecurity.com/homeusers/solutions/activescan/
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