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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Security issue of news.povray.org
Date: 10 Sep 2018 02:47:30
Message: <5b961382@news.povray.org>
I usually use Thunderbird to read and write messages. Crashing of 
Thunderbird while loading a too heavy image made me go and log in to the 
site directly as I wanted to reply. The warning I got was that the 
connection to news.povray.org was not secure, which made me hesitate to 
go on.

I wonder if this should not be corrected in view of the state of the 
(internet) world nowadays. Lack of the basic site protections feels 
wrong (and threatening) and particularly outdated.

What do you think?

-- 
Thomas


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From: Bald Eagle
Subject: Re: Security issue of news.povray.org
Date: 10 Sep 2018 06:30:00
Message: <web.5b96475aee91e94d458c7afe0@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> I usually use Thunderbird to read and write messages. Crashing of
> Thunderbird while loading a too heavy image made me go and log in to the
> site directly as I wanted to reply. The warning I got was that the
> connection to news.povray.org was not secure, which made me hesitate to
> go on.
>
> I wonder if this should not be corrected in view of the state of the
> (internet) world nowadays. Lack of the basic site protections feels
> wrong (and threatening) and particularly outdated.
>
> What do you think?
>
> --
> Thomas

I think you need to show some RFID-embedded biometric-enhanced ID, pal.

This doesn't sound like the Devil-may-care, swashbuckling TdG, _I_ know...

Somebody log this joker's IP and check on the REAL TdG.









:-P

Do we really need HTTPS?


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Security issue of news.povray.org
Date: 10 Sep 2018 06:46:12
Message: <5b964b74$1@news.povray.org>
On 10/09/2018 11:28, Bald Eagle wrote:
> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
>> I usually use Thunderbird to read and write messages. Crashing of
>> Thunderbird while loading a too heavy image made me go and log in to the
>> site directly as I wanted to reply. The warning I got was that the
>> connection to news.povray.org was not secure, which made me hesitate to
>> go on.
>>
>> I wonder if this should not be corrected in view of the state of the
>> (internet) world nowadays. Lack of the basic site protections feels
>> wrong (and threatening) and particularly outdated.
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> --
>> Thomas
> 
> I think you need to show some RFID-embedded biometric-enhanced ID, pal.
> 
> This doesn't sound like the Devil-may-care, swashbuckling TdG, _I_ know...
> 
> Somebody log this joker's IP and check on the REAL TdG.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
He only swashbuckles in safe environments.

> 
> 
> 
> 
> :-P
> 
> Do we really need HTTPS?
> 

At the dawn of the Big Data era. It pays to be careful.


-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Security issue of news.povray.org
Date: 10 Sep 2018 07:13:02
Message: <5b9651be@news.povray.org>
On 10-9-2018 12:28, Bald Eagle wrote:
> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
>> I usually use Thunderbird to read and write messages. Crashing of
>> Thunderbird while loading a too heavy image made me go and log in to the
>> site directly as I wanted to reply. The warning I got was that the
>> connection to news.povray.org was not secure, which made me hesitate to
>> go on.
>>
>> I wonder if this should not be corrected in view of the state of the
>> (internet) world nowadays. Lack of the basic site protections feels
>> wrong (and threatening) and particularly outdated.
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> --
>> Thomas
> 
> I think you need to show some RFID-embedded biometric-enhanced ID, pal.

Nah. That would blow up the site.

> 
> This doesn't sound like the Devil-may-care, swashbuckling TdG, _I_ know...
> 
> Somebody log this joker's IP and check on the REAL TdG.
> 

That's what I mean: that swashbuckling one is phony to the core! Trust 
me, I know ;-)

> 
> :-P
> 
> Do we really need HTTPS?
> 

More than ever imo. Or better, as HTTPS is also being taken over 
gradually by the dark side.

-- 
Thomas


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From: Chris Cason
Subject: Re: Security issue of news.povray.org
Date: 10 Sep 2018 07:20:42
Message: <5b96538a$1@news.povray.org>
On 10/09/2018 16:47, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> I usually use Thunderbird to read and write messages. Crashing of 
> Thunderbird while loading a too heavy image made me go and log in to the 
> site directly as I wanted to reply. The warning I got was that the 
> connection to news.povray.org was not secure, which made me hesitate to 
> go on.
> 
> I wonder if this should not be corrected in view of the state of the 
> (internet) world nowadays. Lack of the basic site protections feels 
> wrong (and threatening) and particularly outdated.

Thanks for pointing this out. Indeed we don't have SSL enabled for the
news server as our current three-name cert is maxed out. I've set in
motion an application for a wildcard cert and when I get that I'll add
news to the SSL configuration.

-- Chris


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From: Bald Eagle
Subject: Re: Security issue of news.povray.org
Date: 10 Sep 2018 09:30:00
Message: <web.5b967106ee91e94dc437ac910@news.povray.org>
Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:

> He only swashbuckles in safe environments.

Oh, I thought all that padding in his room was ...  nevermind.


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From: Chris Cason
Subject: Re: Security issue of news.povray.org
Date: 10 Sep 2018 10:32:36
Message: <5b968084$1@news.povray.org>
Folks,

SSL access to the forums is now enabled: https://news.povray.org/

-- Chris


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Security issue of news.povray.org
Date: 10 Sep 2018 10:51:52
Message: <5b968508$1@news.povray.org>
On 10/09/2018 14:26, Bald Eagle wrote:
> Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> 
>> He only swashbuckles in safe environments.
> 
> Oh, I thought all that padding in his room was ...  nevermind.
> 

For comfort, I believe. ;)

-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Security issue of news.povray.org
Date: 10 Sep 2018 12:46:46
Message: <5b969ff6$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 06:28:42 -0400, Bald Eagle wrote:

> Do we really need HTTPS?

Using Thunderbird, that'd be NNTP over SSL, rather than HTTPS.

Since the server doesn't require authentication, using SSL with NNTP 
doesn't really make a huge difference.

Jim

-- 
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and 
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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From: Kenneth
Subject: Re: Security issue of news.povray.org
Date: 10 Sep 2018 14:20:06
Message: <web.5b96b4daee91e94da47873e10@news.povray.org>
Chris Cason <del### [at] deletethistoopovrayorg> wrote:
> Folks,
>
> SSL access to the forums is now enabled: https://news.povray.org/
>
> -- Chris

Great news, thanks.

But I just tried the link using Firefox (Sept 10, 2:13pm EST in the US) and it
doesn't load ("the connection has timed out.") I tried it twice.


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