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On 2/25/2018 1:12 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 25-2-2018 2:58, Mike Horvath wrote:
>> We need more armed teachers in school. We also need more armed
>> teachers at airports, and the frontlines in Iraq and Afghanistan. The
>> Secret Service should be replaced by armed teachers.
>>
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>
> And of course teaching should be started as soon as possible: arming
> toddlers from age 2 up, and arming the parents of course, 24/7.
> Contraception should be forbidden too in order to compensate for the
> unavoidable (but necessary) population drop. However, this might be
> beneficial for the gene flow.
>
> [sigh...]
>
Not to worry, within 24 hours of them arming them they will be reduced
to begging parents to buy the bullets, or using squirt guns...
Seriously... A large segment of the US has completely gone off their
freaking rockers. If this was Gotham we would be seeing people running
around in freaky costumes at this point, and almost all of them claiming
to be the heroes, while acting like freaking Penguin, or worse, the gun
nut Zsasz. One recent idiot spent their time, in support of the NRA,
whining that the ATF, who lacks the authority to do shit about making
policy, was "at fault", because they didn't have "clear definitions" for
what the F constituted "assault weapons". Like having a clear definition
would mean shit. It would just give the NRA a clear target to whine and
complain about, and defends as, "Not the problem!!!"
Thing is... they are right. The problem is a universal disrespect for
people, and an equally universal delusion about "personal freedom", and
the definition that so many people use for that, which includes
unrestrained greed as an actual f-ing asset. So, the GOP attacks judges
that try to prevent voters from being suppressed, because "freedom"
means preventing non-conservatives from voting. Saving victims, in the
case of "trafficking" has become raping them, in places like Alaska, to
entrap them for arrest, ignoring their attempts to get help (which has
been going on for ever), when someone attacks them (one judge decided
that a case of multiple rape was "theft of services"), and cops, with
impunity, threaten and take advantage of them, doing the same "theft"
all the time, to get information out of them, or stop them from speaking
up, to the point where one women threw herself out of a window, and
died, trying to escape an INS raid, after have spent nearly a decade as
an unwilling "informant" (from threats and violence by the cops). But,
while wide spread, kind of like killing black people, less than a half a
dozen cops have ever been tried, never mind fired, for any of this, and,
meanwhile, while the "justice system" is "saving" prostitutes, its
letting mega-corporations traffick workers, using threats and coercion,
which is just as bad, if not, for some women, nearly identical, to force
them to do amounts of work, shifts, and at pay rates, which **should
be** illegal, and probably are, if you are willing to risk your job to
speak out against them (and this is the mild cases, not the truly
criminal ones, like cases of immigrants that ended up in the US, and
then where kept in sweat shop conditions in the US borders, under threat
that they would be deported if they didn't work for shit hours and pay.
Oh, and.. lest we forget, almost no one notices any of this corruption,
failure, and even intentional sabotage of justice, because rich white
people, who are really famous, have snatched up things like #metoo, to
talk about their, perfectly legit, but hardly uncommon, harrassment,
while the marginalized people of color, and trans, etc., who **created**
the movement are shoved aside and ignored, by the very people who
suddenly made the world notice the movement.
Heck, in some of this its not even just the US. Whole swaths of supposed
"feminists" decided to side with bigots and liars, and the very people
that abuse sex workers, by telling Amnesty International to back off of
the idea of legalizing what they do. Because, making these people even
more marginalized, calling them victims, while both the cops, and the
legal system abuse them, and push them further into danger, and every
single action being taken to "save" them in just stealing money from
them, or forcing them to work with, or take as clients, the very abusers
they need protection from, is really helping "victims". In fact, its
making things worse, because, gee, somehow people that choose, or are
forced, into this sort of work are not human, don't deserve the same
legal protections, are just, somehow, simultaneously, both complete scum
(lets not talk to them and find out what they are really like, or who
they would prefer to be able to legally deny as clients, instead of
scrambling for rent money), and "victims" of a system that even the
freaking police rape and abuse them in, because, well.. they are just
scum too.
Guns.. guns are just more of the same crap. If you are a bad guy, the
"system" is "supposed to" keep you from getting them. Only, the system
is bought and sold buy the NRA, so *everyone* is able to get one, and
even if some law is supposed to prevent you getting one, there are
**no** safeguards to make sure you are really truly qualified to use one
(there are loopholes around any that do exist), and... **ABSOLUTELY**
nothing to make sure you are mentally qualified to own one, unlike
countries like, say, Japan, which freaking require a psych evaluation,
and bloody testing every 3 years, to own one. Try, just try, to
implement this sort of thing in the US, and you will get 1% of the NRA's
time spent talking about how great and idea it is to keep them out of
the hands of crazy and dangerous people, and 99% of their time trying to
not just prevent the law passing, but murder the political careers of
every single person that voted for it. Because, its not about what is
right, or needed, or just, or sensible, etc., its about what "protects
the NRA's freedoms, which includes pure greed." Everyone elses rights,
including the right to safety, protection, and even life itself... those
are less important that the ideology of freedom and the second
amendment. Just like every other injustice, and life destroying thing in
the US, is about protecting some groups ideologies, or profits. Who
gives a fuck what lives you ruin in the process, by trying to "fix" the
problems by making your supposed "victims" less safe, and more likely to
be victimized. Its a "moral issue" of great importance whether or not
someone accuses important people of rape, or is a feminist, or can't pay
their rent on a shitty job, instead of selling sex, or, by god, you are
threatening to take away their damn guns.
The death, physical and mental abuse, mistreatment, police violence, or
just plain continued support of the people screwing them over, instead
of the actual victims, those are all just "distractions". Just ask
people like Richard Dawkins, or CFI, who, unlike, at this point, nearly
every other secular group, still invite accused sexual harassers to
speak at conferences, or attend their cruises. Who gives a damn about
the real victims, or what your solutions do to them, the "moral stance"
you are taking is more important (even when its complete bullshit).
The cancer is all through the US at this point, and.. sadly, its being
exported, in small, potentially lethal, doses, because, even in Europe,
there are idiots that are more willing to listen to a bullshit moral
argument, than "see" the results of trying to fix their imaginary
problems, and appose those actually trying to help people, and change
society for the better. The "socially acceptable" criminals, of course,
have a field day with it. After all, who (when criminal at heart)
doesn't want to steal property, or rape women, legally, as a cop, or get
rich, taking money from gun lobbyists, defend greed, in the face of
rising poverty, or blame everything wrong with the world on immigrants,
even as you cut the very jobs you claim they are stealing, and on, and on.
Crime does pay - as long as its a crime against people that don't
matter, and your are on the side that *does*. And, you even get to claim
that you are protecting "victims", as you hand the gun, or access to
their bodies, or auction off their stolen property, or a thousand other
weapons, to their next abuser. But, at least, so everyone around you
claims, you are the one on, "the moral high ground".
Not sure, at this point, if moving off the damn planet isn't the better
idea, if it where possible. The US might have cornered the flea market
on stupid ideas and implementing them as social and justice policy,
but.. we borrowed some of this crap from other places, who can't see how
freaking stupid the ideas are either. Its hard to tell if the poison
originated here, or it just found a low spot in the damn landscape at
this point. And, the only hope comes with the possibility that enough
people here also appose the crap, that *maybe* they can pull their heads
out of their asses too, and start looking for solutions that help
everyone, and not just the, #iamafamouswhitevictimtoo.
--
Commander Vimes: "You take a bunch of people who don't seem any
different from you and me, but when you add them all together you get
this sort of huge raving maniac with national borders and an anthem."
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