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From: Cousin Ricky
Subject: Uh-oh
Date: 4 Jun 2017 08:36:37
Message: <5933fed5@news.povray.org>
The fan on my computer just became louder, and I thought I detected an 
unpleasant smell during my last render.

Looks like I won't be doing any renders until I get the fan replaced.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Uh-oh
Date: 4 Jun 2017 09:08:59
Message: <5934066b$1@news.povray.org>
On 6/4/2017 1:36 PM, Cousin Ricky wrote:
> The fan on my computer just became louder, and I thought I detected an
> unpleasant smell during my last render.
>
> Looks like I won't be doing any renders until I get the fan replaced.

Gulp! Good that you caught it early.

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Regards
     Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Uh-oh
Date: 5 Jun 2017 02:49:12
Message: <5934fee8@news.povray.org>
On 4-6-2017 15:08, Stephen wrote:
> On 6/4/2017 1:36 PM, Cousin Ricky wrote:
>> The fan on my computer just became louder, and I thought I detected an
>> unpleasant smell during my last render.
>>
>> Looks like I won't be doing any renders until I get the fan replaced.
>
> Gulp! Good that you caught it early.
>

Maybe cleaning away the accumulated dust on the fan will be enough. I 
have experienced loud noises before and that was the solution (with 
compressed air... carefully).

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Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Uh-oh
Date: 5 Jun 2017 03:26:53
Message: <593507bd$1@news.povray.org>
On 6/5/2017 7:49 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 4-6-2017 15:08, Stephen wrote:
>> On 6/4/2017 1:36 PM, Cousin Ricky wrote:
>>> The fan on my computer just became louder, and I thought I detected an
>>> unpleasant smell during my last render.
>>>
>>> Looks like I won't be doing any renders until I get the fan replaced.
>>
>> Gulp! Good that you caught it early.
>>
>
> Maybe cleaning away the accumulated dust on the fan will be enough. I
> have experienced loud noises before and that was the solution (with
> compressed air... carefully).
>

I've never thought that using compressed air was a good idea. Unless you 
can take the fan out of the machine it just blows it elsewhere. And they 
are expensive. I use a clean paintbrush and a vacuum cleaner with an 
extension.

About a month ago I noticed a fan on my PC that I had not cleaned for 3 
years. It took me over an hour to get access to it and I had to remove 
the fan controller. Now one of fans is reporting a speed of zero. The 
temperature is okay but I will need to strip the m/c down again to check 
it. The fan controller is not very good. (AeroCool Touch-2000)

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Regards
     Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Uh-oh
Date: 5 Jun 2017 05:38:22
Message: <5935268e$1@news.povray.org>
On 6/5/2017 8:26 AM, Stephen wrote:
> About a month ago I noticed a fan on my PC that I had not cleaned for 3
> years. It took me over an hour to get access to it and I had to remove
> the fan controller. Now one of fans is reporting a speed of zero. The
> temperature is okay but I will need to strip the m/c down again to check
> it. The fan controller is not very good. (AeroCool Touch-2000)

Got it! :-)
The sensor wire was loose in the connector. I didn't notice it until I 
was putting it back together.

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Regards
     Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Uh-oh
Date: 5 Jun 2017 07:23:22
Message: <59353f2a$1@news.povray.org>
On 5-6-2017 9:26, Stephen wrote:
> On 6/5/2017 7:49 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 4-6-2017 15:08, Stephen wrote:
>>> On 6/4/2017 1:36 PM, Cousin Ricky wrote:
>>>> The fan on my computer just became louder, and I thought I detected an
>>>> unpleasant smell during my last render.
>>>>
>>>> Looks like I won't be doing any renders until I get the fan replaced.
>>>
>>> Gulp! Good that you caught it early.
>>>
>>
>> Maybe cleaning away the accumulated dust on the fan will be enough. I
>> have experienced loud noises before and that was the solution (with
>> compressed air... carefully).
>>
>
> I've never thought that using compressed air was a good idea. Unless you
> can take the fan out of the machine it just blows it elsewhere. And they
> are expensive. I use a clean paintbrush and a vacuum cleaner with an
> extension.

There is that, however it did the trick for me :-) I got rid of the dust 
somehow...

>
> About a month ago I noticed a fan on my PC that I had not cleaned for 3
> years. It took me over an hour to get access to it and I had to remove
> the fan controller. Now one of fans is reporting a speed of zero. The
> temperature is okay but I will need to strip the m/c down again to check
> it. The fan controller is not very good. (AeroCool Touch-2000)
>


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Thomas


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From: Cousin Ricky
Subject: Re: Uh-oh
Date: 5 Jun 2017 07:42:51
Message: <593543bb$1@news.povray.org>
On 2017-06-05 02:49 AM (-4), Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Maybe cleaning away the accumulated dust on the fan will be enough. I
> have experienced loud noises before and that was the solution (with
> compressed air... carefully).

First thing I tried.  Didn't work.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Uh-oh
Date: 5 Jun 2017 08:22:29
Message: <59354d05$1@news.povray.org>
On 6/5/2017 12:43 PM, Cousin Ricky wrote:
> On 2017-06-05 02:49 AM (-4), Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> Maybe cleaning away the accumulated dust on the fan will be enough. I
>> have experienced loud noises before and that was the solution (with
>> compressed air... carefully).
>
> First thing I tried.  Didn't work.
>

If it is making a squealing noise. This might be a short term fix.
In the olden days. If you removed the sticky back cover in the centre of 
the fan. There was a small hole where you can put a drop of machine oil 
on the bearings.

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Regards
     Stephen


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From: Cousin Ricky
Subject: Re: Uh-oh
Date: 5 Jun 2017 09:16:54
Message: <593559c6$1@news.povray.org>
On 2017-06-05 08:22 AM (-4), Stephen wrote:
> If it is making a squealing noise. This might be a short term fix.
> In the olden days. If you removed the sticky back cover in the centre of
> the fan. There was a small hole where you can put a drop of machine oil
> on the bearings.

It's vibrating.  I'm afraid it's going to shake something loose.  I 
think it already has.

A replacement can be had for US$12 on Amazon, and I think would be 
totally worth it.  The hardest part would be a software guy like me 
fiddling with screwdrivers.  I will most likely end up buying from an 
off-island supplier who posted a video on how to do the replacement, for 
considerably more than $12.  I'd consider it a gratuity for the video.

I'm looking to buy a replacement power cord for them as well.  My 
battery won't charge, which is serious, because my backwards third world 
country has power outages almost every day.  I've exhausted almost all 
local options; the last chance is paying OfficeMax through the nose for 
a Genuine Dell power cord, and the remote supplier has 'em cheaper. 
(But then there is shipping.)


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Uh-oh
Date: 5 Jun 2017 10:33:24
Message: <59356bb4$1@news.povray.org>
On 6/5/2017 2:17 PM, Cousin Ricky wrote:
> On 2017-06-05 08:22 AM (-4), Stephen wrote:
>> If it is making a squealing noise. This might be a short term fix.
>> In the olden days. If you removed the sticky back cover in the centre of
>> the fan. There was a small hole where you can put a drop of machine oil
>> on the bearings.
>
> It's vibrating.  I'm afraid it's going to shake something loose.  I
> think it already has.
>

My first guess would be a broken fan blade throwing it off balance. Or 
it could be the bearings.



> A replacement can be had for US$12 on Amazon, and I think would be
> totally worth it.

Yes, totally, totally. :)

> The hardest part would be a software guy like me
> fiddling with screwdrivers.  I will most likely end up buying from an
> off-island supplier who posted a video on how to do the replacement, for
> considerably more than $12.  I'd consider it a gratuity for the video.
>

You might consider buying the fan from Amazon and using the video for 
instructions. If the Amazon fan is a genuine replacement. That would be 
best. If you are not confident doing it yourself. It might be an idea to 
ask one of the computer repair shops to do it for the cost of the labour 
if you supply the parts.
You mention that your battery not charging, is it a laptop? That might 
make a difference to how easy it is to do.

The next bit of advice will have people screaming. I always use a  1/8" 
terminal screwdriver instead of a Phillips or crosshead screwdriver. 
Because if Dell use propriety screws you will strip/round the head if 
you don't have the right type. (Speaking from long experience on this.)
it goes against the grain but it works for me. And buy the cheapest not 
the fancy type. They should be about a dollar or 10 bucks for ten.
Something like this:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Neill-Tools-Terminal-Screwdriver-100mm-Slotted-P18-4-/152480558413

A small shifting spanner (adjustable wrench) on the end acts as a torque 
bar to start them off. (It often makes a cracking sound as if the 
plastic has broken.)
BTW keep the screwdriver vertical so it does not slip. [Important]

I hope I am not trying to teach you to suck eggs. :)


> I'm looking to buy a replacement power cord for them as well.  My
> battery won't charge, which is serious, because my backwards third world
> country has power outages almost every day.  I've exhausted almost all
> local options; the last chance is paying OfficeMax through the nose for
> a Genuine Dell power cord, and the remote supplier has 'em cheaper. (But
> then there is shipping.)
>

Are you sure it is not the battery? Every one of my laptop batteries has 
died the death because I keep my laptop plugged in. They don't like it.

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Regards
     Stephen


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