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Interesting speech by Nicola Surgeon. I am curious to see what
manoeuvring room she will have in the coming months and what the UK will
accept or not.
In the end, Scotland can always join our Banana Republic of course. :-)
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Nicola Sturgeon of course. I hate Typographical misspellings! :-(
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On 3/13/2017 12:38 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Interesting speech by Nicola Surgeon. I am curious to see what
> manoeuvring room she will have in the coming months and what the UK will
> accept or not.
>
I'm interested in hearing how Mrs May responds.
> In the end, Scotland can always join our Banana Republic of course. :-)
>
I invoke Godwin's law.
What happened to the movement from a few years ago, for Flanders (I'll
use the English term, not wanting to start any flame wars) to join the
Netherlands?
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Stephen
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On 13-3-2017 14:21, Stephen wrote:
> On 3/13/2017 12:38 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> Interesting speech by Nicola Surgeon. I am curious to see what
>> manoeuvring room she will have in the coming months and what the UK will
>> accept or not.
>>
>
> I'm interested in hearing how Mrs May responds.
From Sturgeon's speech, it has not been very promising until now.
>
>
>> In the end, Scotland can always join our Banana Republic of course. :-)
>>
>
> I invoke Godwin's law.
Indeed! Indeed! And the exchange had not even really started.
>
> What happened to the movement from a few years ago, for Flanders (I'll
> use the English term, not wanting to start any flame wars) to join the
> Netherlands?
>
It drifted away without a trace with the realisation that too much
separates us culturally speaking. It would never work. What does work
however is the cooperation successively known as Benelux and European Union.
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Thomas
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On 3/14/2017 7:40 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 13-3-2017 14:21, Stephen wrote:
>> On 3/13/2017 12:38 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>> Interesting speech by Nicola Surgeon. I am curious to see what
>>> manoeuvring room she will have in the coming months and what the UK will
>>> accept or not.
>>>
>>
>> I'm interested in hearing how Mrs May responds.
>
> From Sturgeon's speech, it has not been very promising until now.
>
She is just mixing it, putting pressure on the Westminster government.
Well, not just. Tactically it is probably the best time to further her
cause for independence. If she left it any later the situation would be
too uncertain to predict.
>>
>>
>>> In the end, Scotland can always join our Banana Republic of course. :-)
>>>
>>
>> I invoke Godwin's law.
>
> Indeed! Indeed! And the exchange had not even really started.
>
Ah! well, only a couple of days to go.
>>
>> What happened to the movement from a few years ago, for Flanders (I'll
>> use the English term, not wanting to start any flame wars) to join the
>> Netherlands?
>>
>
> It drifted away without a trace with the realisation that too much
> separates us culturally speaking. It would never work. What does work
> however is the cooperation successively known as Benelux and European
> Union.
>
It just drifted out of my thoughts. I was wondering.
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Stephen
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On 14-3-2017 9:33, Stephen wrote:
> On 3/14/2017 7:40 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 13-3-2017 14:21, Stephen wrote:
>>> On 3/13/2017 12:38 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>> Interesting speech by Nicola Surgeon. I am curious to see what
>>>> manoeuvring room she will have in the coming months and what the UK
>>>> will
>>>> accept or not.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm interested in hearing how Mrs May responds.
>>
>> From Sturgeon's speech, it has not been very promising until now.
>>
>
> She is just mixing it, putting pressure on the Westminster government.
> Well, not just. Tactically it is probably the best time to further her
> cause for independence. If she left it any later the situation would be
> too uncertain to predict.
I agree. Her timing seems to have been very good and she seems to be a
good tactician too.
>
>>>
>>>
>>>> In the end, Scotland can always join our Banana Republic of course. :-)
>>>>
>>>
>>> I invoke Godwin's law.
>>
>> Indeed! Indeed! And the exchange had not even really started.
>>
>
> Ah! well, only a couple of days to go.
As for that, the whole mess seems not to have influenced the upcoming
elections tomorrow to any degree. Of which I am glad.
Otherwise, the little fight we seem to be involved in with Mr E from T
has a high degree of Chimpanzee Politics (see:
https://books.google.nl/books?id=XsrhU2vV5PIC&redir_esc=y) ;-)
>
>>>
>>> What happened to the movement from a few years ago, for Flanders (I'll
>>> use the English term, not wanting to start any flame wars) to join the
>>> Netherlands?
>>>
>>
>> It drifted away without a trace with the realisation that too much
>> separates us culturally speaking. It would never work. What does work
>> however is the cooperation successively known as Benelux and European
>> Union.
>>
>
> It just drifted out of my thoughts. I was wondering.
>
Utopia... :-)
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On 3/14/2017 12:18 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 14-3-2017 9:33, Stephen wrote:
>> On 3/14/2017 7:40 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>> On 13-3-2017 14:21, Stephen wrote:
>>>> On 3/13/2017 12:38 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>>> Interesting speech by Nicola Surgeon. I am curious to see what
>>>>> manoeuvring room she will have in the coming months and what the UK
>>>>> will
>>>>> accept or not.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm interested in hearing how Mrs May responds.
>>>
>>> From Sturgeon's speech, it has not been very promising until now.
>>>
>>
>> She is just mixing it, putting pressure on the Westminster government.
>> Well, not just. Tactically it is probably the best time to further her
>> cause for independence. If she left it any later the situation would be
>> too uncertain to predict.
>
> I agree. Her timing seems to have been very good and she seems to be a
> good tactician too.
>
Yes if you are going to chib someone. Do it when they don't expect it. :-D
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> In the end, Scotland can always join our Banana Republic of course.
>>>>> :-)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I invoke Godwin's law.
>>>
>>> Indeed! Indeed! And the exchange had not even really started.
>>>
>>
>> Ah! well, only a couple of days to go.
>
> As for that, the whole mess seems not to have influenced the upcoming
> elections tomorrow to any degree. Of which I am glad.
>
> Otherwise, the little fight we seem to be involved in with Mr E from T
> has a high degree of Chimpanzee Politics (see:
> https://books.google.nl/books?id=XsrhU2vV5PIC&redir_esc=y) ;-)
>
There was a Dutch analyst on Radio 4, this morning. Who said the spat
suits both Mark Rutte and Mr E. It has increased both of their standings
in the polls.
Which is maybe the reverse of Chimpanzee Politics or playing to your
audience.
>>
>>>>
>>>> What happened to the movement from a few years ago, for Flanders (I'll
>>>> use the English term, not wanting to start any flame wars) to join the
>>>> Netherlands?
>>>>
>>>
>>> It drifted away without a trace with the realisation that too much
>>> separates us culturally speaking. It would never work. What does work
>>> however is the cooperation successively known as Benelux and European
>>> Union.
>>>
>>
>> It just drifted out of my thoughts. I was wondering.
>>
>
> Utopia... :-)
>
A fool's paradise, maybe. :-)
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Stephen
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On 14-3-2017 13:57, Stephen wrote:
> On 3/14/2017 12:18 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 14-3-2017 9:33, Stephen wrote:
>>> On 3/14/2017 7:40 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>> On 13-3-2017 14:21, Stephen wrote:
>>>>> On 3/13/2017 12:38 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>>>> Interesting speech by Nicola Surgeon. I am curious to see what
>>>>>> manoeuvring room she will have in the coming months and what the UK
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> accept or not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm interested in hearing how Mrs May responds.
>>>>
>>>> From Sturgeon's speech, it has not been very promising until now.
>>>>
>>>
>>> She is just mixing it, putting pressure on the Westminster government.
>>> Well, not just. Tactically it is probably the best time to further her
>>> cause for independence. If she left it any later the situation would be
>>> too uncertain to predict.
>>
>> I agree. Her timing seems to have been very good and she seems to be a
>> good tactician too.
>>
>
> Yes if you are going to chib someone. Do it when they don't expect it. :-D
>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> In the end, Scotland can always join our Banana Republic of course.
>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I invoke Godwin's law.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed! Indeed! And the exchange had not even really started.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ah! well, only a couple of days to go.
>>
>> As for that, the whole mess seems not to have influenced the upcoming
>> elections tomorrow to any degree. Of which I am glad.
>>
>> Otherwise, the little fight we seem to be involved in with Mr E from T
>> has a high degree of Chimpanzee Politics (see:
>> https://books.google.nl/books?id=XsrhU2vV5PIC&redir_esc=y) ;-)
>>
>
> There was a Dutch analyst on Radio 4, this morning. Who said the spat
> suits both Mark Rutte and Mr E. It has increased both of their standings
> in the polls.
>
> Which is maybe the reverse of Chimpanzee Politics or playing to your
> audience.
Let's say that mr E's behaviour is closer to chimpanzee's than Mark
Rutte's ;-) Otherwise, yes. Both gain by it. I could make a little bet
about Mr E's international behaviour /after his/ referendum (if he wins
of course).
>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What happened to the movement from a few years ago, for Flanders (I'll
>>>>> use the English term, not wanting to start any flame wars) to join the
>>>>> Netherlands?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It drifted away without a trace with the realisation that too much
>>>> separates us culturally speaking. It would never work. What does work
>>>> however is the cooperation successively known as Benelux and European
>>>> Union.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It just drifted out of my thoughts. I was wondering.
>>>
>>
>> Utopia... :-)
>>
>
> A fool's paradise, maybe. :-)
>
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On 3/14/2017 1:06 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>
> Let's say that mr E's behaviour is closer to chimpanzee's than Mark
> Rutte's ;-) Otherwise, yes. Both gain by it. I could make a little bet
> about Mr E's international behaviour /after his/ referendum (if he wins
> of course).
I agree and if I were a betting man I guess he will take Turkey into the
Russian sphere of influence.
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Stephen
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On 14-3-2017 14:35, Stephen wrote:
> On 3/14/2017 1:06 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>
>> Let's say that mr E's behaviour is closer to chimpanzee's than Mark
>> Rutte's ;-) Otherwise, yes. Both gain by it. I could make a little bet
>> about Mr E's international behaviour /after his/ referendum (if he wins
>> of course).
>
> I agree and if I were a betting man I guess he will take Turkey into the
> Russian sphere of influence.
>
Which would be an uncomfortable position as a NATO member... but I would
not be surprised at all.
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