"Sherry K. Shaw" <ten### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> IIRC, I was five or six years old when I began to suspect that most
> people in the world were irremediably stupid.

If anything can eliminate the cringeworthy idea of "American exceptionalism," it
is observing in our elections that Americans are as easily manipulated as the
other 95% of humanity.  Unfortunately, the very people who believe in American
exceptionalism  are the ones who cannot see that they have been manipulated.
Two chaps named Dunning and Kruger might have more to say about this.

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On 11/10/2016 8:29 AM, Cousin Ricky wrote:
> "Sherry K. Shaw" <ten### [at] aolcom> wrote:
>> IIRC, I was five or six years old when I began to suspect that most
>> people in the world were irremediably stupid.
>
> If anything can eliminate the cringeworthy idea of "American exceptionalism," it
> is observing in our elections that Americans are as easily manipulated as the
> other 95% of humanity.  Unfortunately, the very people who believe in American
> exceptionalism  are the ones who cannot see that they have been manipulated.
> Two chaps named Dunning and Kruger might have more to say about this.
>
>

I think every nation has its factions that believe in their 
"exceptionalism".

Mike

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On 11/10/2016 11:00 AM, Mike Horvath wrote:
> On 11/10/2016 8:29 AM, Cousin Ricky wrote:
>> "Sherry K. Shaw" <ten### [at] aolcom> wrote:
>>> IIRC, I was five or six years old when I began to suspect that most
>>> people in the world were irremediably stupid.
>>
>> If anything can eliminate the cringeworthy idea of "American
>> exceptionalism," it
>> is observing in our elections that Americans are as easily manipulated
>> as the
>> other 95% of humanity.  Unfortunately, the very people who believe in
>> American
>> exceptionalism  are the ones who cannot see that they have been
>> manipulated.
>> Two chaps named Dunning and Kruger might have more to say about this.
>>
>>
>
> I think every nation has its factions that believe in their
> "exceptionalism".
>
> Mike

Their _own_ exceptionalism, rather.

Mike

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On 11/10/2016 4:00 PM, Mike Horvath wrote:
> On 11/10/2016 8:29 AM, Cousin Ricky wrote:
>> "Sherry K. Shaw" <ten### [at] aolcom> wrote:
>>> IIRC, I was five or six years old when I began to suspect that most
>>> people in the world were irremediably stupid.
>>
>> If anything can eliminate the cringeworthy idea of "American
>> exceptionalism," it
>> is observing in our elections that Americans are as easily manipulated
>> as the
>> other 95% of humanity.  Unfortunately, the very people who believe in
>> American
>> exceptionalism  are the ones who cannot see that they have been
>> manipulated.
>> Two chaps named Dunning and Kruger might have more to say about this.
>>
>>
>
> I think every nation has its factions that believe in their
> "exceptionalism".
>

I can think of at least half a dozen in the UK alone.


-- 

Regards
     Stephen

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On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 08:10:55 -0500, Mike Horvath wrote:

> I think he will get most of what he and his supporters want,
> unfortunately. He has the Presidency, both houses of Congress, and soon
> SCOTUS behind him mostly.

I think it's more complicated than that - he made a lot of enemies in the 
GOP during the campaign, and there are things in his first 100 day play 
that the congressional leadership has basically said "over my dead body" 
about - like congressional term limits.

He also is still bound to act within the law.

But I do predict that progress will be set back over the next 4 years.  
Hopefully we'll end up with candidates in the opposition who can unite to 
prevent a second term.

Jim
-- 
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and 
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw

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Am 10.11.2016 um 17:00 schrieb Mike Horvath:
> On 11/10/2016 8:29 AM, Cousin Ricky wrote:
>> "Sherry K. Shaw" <ten### [at] aolcom> wrote:
>>> IIRC, I was five or six years old when I began to suspect that most
>>> people in the world were irremediably stupid.
>>
>> If anything can eliminate the cringeworthy idea of "American
>> exceptionalism," it
>> is observing in our elections that Americans are as easily manipulated
>> as the
>> other 95% of humanity.  Unfortunately, the very people who believe in
>> American
>> exceptionalism  are the ones who cannot see that they have been
>> manipulated.
>> Two chaps named Dunning and Kruger might have more to say about this.
>>
>>
> 
> I think every nation has its factions that believe in their
> "exceptionalism".

Couldn't possibly ever have happened over here in Germany...

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On 10-11-2016 17:57, clipka wrote:
> Am 10.11.2016 um 17:00 schrieb Mike Horvath:
>> On 11/10/2016 8:29 AM, Cousin Ricky wrote:
>>> "Sherry K. Shaw" <ten### [at] aolcom> wrote:
>>>> IIRC, I was five or six years old when I began to suspect that most
>>>> people in the world were irremediably stupid.
>>>
>>> If anything can eliminate the cringeworthy idea of "American
>>> exceptionalism," it
>>> is observing in our elections that Americans are as easily manipulated
>>> as the
>>> other 95% of humanity.  Unfortunately, the very people who believe in
>>> American
>>> exceptionalism  are the ones who cannot see that they have been
>>> manipulated.
>>> Two chaps named Dunning and Kruger might have more to say about this.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I think every nation has its factions that believe in their
>> "exceptionalism".
>
> Couldn't possibly ever have happened over here in Germany...
>

I must agree with that...

-- 
Thomas

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clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
> Am 10.11.2016 um 17:00 schrieb Mike Horvath:
> > I think every nation has its factions that believe in their
> > "exceptionalism".
>
> Couldn't possibly ever have happened over here in Germany...

Ouch!  I can feel that one.

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tth <tth### [at] noneinvalid> wrote:
> On 11/09/2016 07:28 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>
> >
> > Well... OTOH, Bash didn't destroy the world, and he was high-calibre
> > moron. Maybe it won't be that bad...
>
>     If Bash doesn't work, you can try Ksh ;)

Bash got trumped and blushed LOL

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On 11/9/2016 12:53 AM, clipka wrote:
> "Every nation has the government it deserves."
>
> I wished the American people deserved better.
>
> Then again, it seems like we're heading for times when no nation
> deserves much good.
>
> Or maybe the universe is rigged.
>

Sadly, I think this is part of a larger world-wide movement, and we'll 
be seeing similar things in Europe over the next years.

Mike

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