On 11/10/2016 5:34 AM, Sherry K. Shaw wrote:
> Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>> If *I* am the one espousing optimism, then
>> maybe hell has finally frozen over!
>
> The Cubs won the World Series.  I said to myself, OMG, this is the first
> sign of the Apocalypse.
>
> This is literally true.  I am neither superstitious nor particularly a
> sports fan, but this was, in fact, the first moment I began to feel fear
> for my country.  How idiotic is that?
>
> It never occurred to me that anyone could bring out the White Trash vote
> to that extent.  (Indeed, many of them, being convicted felons, aren't
> allowed to vote.)
>
> It never occurred to me that anyone who had expressed such hatred of
> Hispanics could ever carry Florida.
>
> It never occurred to me that anyone who had expressed such contempt of
> working people could ever get their vote.
>

Oh dear! You have said it out loud, Ms Sherry "Too smart for her own 
good" Shaw. :)
Now it will come to pass.

The first sign of the apocalypse heralds the coming of what is agreed by 
most Christian scholars as an Antichrist whose purpose is to lead the 
world astray. Those tricked to follow the false prophecy are trapped in 
a cycle of suffering. The second sign is represented by the onset of war 
and violence...

The above is a quote btw. Not from "To serve Man". The famous 
intergalactic cook book by Damon Knight.

> IIRC, I was five or six years old when I began to suspect that most
> people in the world were irremediably stupid.  And yet, and yet, it
> never occurred to me that they were remotely capable of taking over.
>

You don't know much about British history, then. ;)


> One may hope for miracles.  A sinkhole could open under Trump Tower and
> consume whatever vermin might be infesting it.  A giant meteor could
> strike the podium on Inauguration Day and rid the world of a number of
> cancers.  Or, or maybe, maybe, a Rift in the Space-Time Continuum could
> open up in my front yard and Lazarus Long and his Magic Starship could
> appear and carry me away to a place where people are intelligent and
> kind, and dogs are revered as brethren and the makers of our species,
> and stupid shit like this Does Not Happen.
>

You will need to travel a long way to find that place. I fear.

> Bah.  Humbug.  Time to stock up on canned food and ammo.
>

Luckily, the new administration will help you to buy as many guns as you 
can pay for. And then some.

> Sherry "Don't Blame Me; I Voted For Hillary" Shaw
>


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     Stephen

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On 11/9/2016 6:36 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 00:24:11 +0100, clipka wrote:
>
>> Am 09.11.2016 um 23:50 schrieb Cousin Ricky:
>>> Mike Horvath <mik### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>>>> On 11/9/2016 4:28 PM, Mike Horvath wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Trump will nuke the first foreign leader who mentions the size of his
>>>>> hands.
>>>>
>>>> I mean, if the size of a President's hands aren't worth fighting for,
>>>> what on God's Earth is?
>>>
>>> The size of his... whatever?
>>
>> There's that guy in Turkey who sued a German comedian over a poem about
>> his whatever.
>
> Heh, Trump is about to learn that when he IS the government, he doesn't
> get to tell people they can't say stuff.  Little thing called the 1st
> amendment prevents that.
>
> I suspect that if he tries to go after the first amendment, his party
> (which still doesn't like him very much - they have to look like they do,
> but they really don't) will turn on him.
>
> 2 years, and we can start clawing control back in the midterms.
> Hopefully this disaster will get people to stop making the deal "if I
> can't have everything I want, then I'll compromise and settle for getting
> nothing instead".
>
> Jim
>

I think he will get most of what he and his supporters want, 
unfortunately. He has the Presidency, both houses of Congress, and soon 
SCOTUS behind him mostly.

Mike

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"Sherry K. Shaw" <ten### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> IIRC, I was five or six years old when I began to suspect that most
> people in the world were irremediably stupid.

If anything can eliminate the cringeworthy idea of "American exceptionalism," it
is observing in our elections that Americans are as easily manipulated as the
other 95% of humanity.  Unfortunately, the very people who believe in American
exceptionalism  are the ones who cannot see that they have been manipulated.
Two chaps named Dunning and Kruger might have more to say about this.

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On 11/10/2016 8:29 AM, Cousin Ricky wrote:
> "Sherry K. Shaw" <ten### [at] aolcom> wrote:
>> IIRC, I was five or six years old when I began to suspect that most
>> people in the world were irremediably stupid.
>
> If anything can eliminate the cringeworthy idea of "American exceptionalism," it
> is observing in our elections that Americans are as easily manipulated as the
> other 95% of humanity.  Unfortunately, the very people who believe in American
> exceptionalism  are the ones who cannot see that they have been manipulated.
> Two chaps named Dunning and Kruger might have more to say about this.
>
>

I think every nation has its factions that believe in their 
"exceptionalism".

Mike

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On 11/10/2016 11:00 AM, Mike Horvath wrote:
> On 11/10/2016 8:29 AM, Cousin Ricky wrote:
>> "Sherry K. Shaw" <ten### [at] aolcom> wrote:
>>> IIRC, I was five or six years old when I began to suspect that most
>>> people in the world were irremediably stupid.
>>
>> If anything can eliminate the cringeworthy idea of "American
>> exceptionalism," it
>> is observing in our elections that Americans are as easily manipulated
>> as the
>> other 95% of humanity.  Unfortunately, the very people who believe in
>> American
>> exceptionalism  are the ones who cannot see that they have been
>> manipulated.
>> Two chaps named Dunning and Kruger might have more to say about this.
>>
>>
>
> I think every nation has its factions that believe in their
> "exceptionalism".
>
> Mike

Their _own_ exceptionalism, rather.

Mike

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On 11/10/2016 4:00 PM, Mike Horvath wrote:
> On 11/10/2016 8:29 AM, Cousin Ricky wrote:
>> "Sherry K. Shaw" <ten### [at] aolcom> wrote:
>>> IIRC, I was five or six years old when I began to suspect that most
>>> people in the world were irremediably stupid.
>>
>> If anything can eliminate the cringeworthy idea of "American
>> exceptionalism," it
>> is observing in our elections that Americans are as easily manipulated
>> as the
>> other 95% of humanity.  Unfortunately, the very people who believe in
>> American
>> exceptionalism  are the ones who cannot see that they have been
>> manipulated.
>> Two chaps named Dunning and Kruger might have more to say about this.
>>
>>
>
> I think every nation has its factions that believe in their
> "exceptionalism".
>

I can think of at least half a dozen in the UK alone.


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     Stephen

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On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 08:10:55 -0500, Mike Horvath wrote:

> I think he will get most of what he and his supporters want,
> unfortunately. He has the Presidency, both houses of Congress, and soon
> SCOTUS behind him mostly.

I think it's more complicated than that - he made a lot of enemies in the 
GOP during the campaign, and there are things in his first 100 day play 
that the congressional leadership has basically said "over my dead body" 
about - like congressional term limits.

He also is still bound to act within the law.

But I do predict that progress will be set back over the next 4 years.  
Hopefully we'll end up with candidates in the opposition who can unite to 
prevent a second term.

Jim
-- 
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and 
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw

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Am 10.11.2016 um 17:00 schrieb Mike Horvath:
> On 11/10/2016 8:29 AM, Cousin Ricky wrote:
>> "Sherry K. Shaw" <ten### [at] aolcom> wrote:
>>> IIRC, I was five or six years old when I began to suspect that most
>>> people in the world were irremediably stupid.
>>
>> If anything can eliminate the cringeworthy idea of "American
>> exceptionalism," it
>> is observing in our elections that Americans are as easily manipulated
>> as the
>> other 95% of humanity.  Unfortunately, the very people who believe in
>> American
>> exceptionalism  are the ones who cannot see that they have been
>> manipulated.
>> Two chaps named Dunning and Kruger might have more to say about this.
>>
>>
> 
> I think every nation has its factions that believe in their
> "exceptionalism".

Couldn't possibly ever have happened over here in Germany...

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On 10-11-2016 17:57, clipka wrote:
> Am 10.11.2016 um 17:00 schrieb Mike Horvath:
>> On 11/10/2016 8:29 AM, Cousin Ricky wrote:
>>> "Sherry K. Shaw" <ten### [at] aolcom> wrote:
>>>> IIRC, I was five or six years old when I began to suspect that most
>>>> people in the world were irremediably stupid.
>>>
>>> If anything can eliminate the cringeworthy idea of "American
>>> exceptionalism," it
>>> is observing in our elections that Americans are as easily manipulated
>>> as the
>>> other 95% of humanity.  Unfortunately, the very people who believe in
>>> American
>>> exceptionalism  are the ones who cannot see that they have been
>>> manipulated.
>>> Two chaps named Dunning and Kruger might have more to say about this.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I think every nation has its factions that believe in their
>> "exceptionalism".
>
> Couldn't possibly ever have happened over here in Germany...
>

I must agree with that...

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Thomas

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clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
> Am 10.11.2016 um 17:00 schrieb Mike Horvath:
> > I think every nation has its factions that believe in their
> > "exceptionalism".
>
> Couldn't possibly ever have happened over here in Germany...

Ouch!  I can feel that one.

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