> So, you have the interesting situation where it is easier to buy a gun
> than a bottle of booze; where there is a policeman standing inside the
> booze store but not in the gun store...

That was the original point I was trying to make - maybe it didn't come 
across too well ;-)

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On 26-2-2016 8:56, scott wrote:
>> So, you have the interesting situation where it is easier to buy a gun
>> than a bottle of booze; where there is a policeman standing inside the
>> booze store but not in the gun store...
>
> That was the original point I was trying to make - maybe it didn't come
> across too well ;-)
>
>

I needed a bit of booze to get the point and then I needed a gun to get 
the booze and so I ran up against the policeman who tazered me and I 
just woke up in a padded place with a door without a door handle and 
bars in front of the small window.

-- 
Thomas

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>>> In Utah, I remember there being an issue with someone from outside the
>>> US (maybe it was someone from the UK) trying to buy alcohol with their
>>> regular ID - which didn't include a photo.  Utah requires (or at least
>>> required at one time) a photo ID for purchase.
>>
>> That's easy to solve, you walk round the block, buy a gun, then go back
>> and ask again for a drink :-)
>
> The liquor stores in Utah typically have a police officer on duty.

Crazy.

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On 2/26/2016 8:00 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> I needed a bit of booze to get the point and then I needed a gun to get
> the booze and so I ran up against the policeman who tazered me and I
> just woke up in a padded place with a door without a door handle and
> bars in front of the small window.


Ah! The days of our youth. ;-)

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Regards
     Stephen

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On 26-2-2016 10:13, Stephen wrote:
> On 2/26/2016 8:00 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> I needed a bit of booze to get the point and then I needed a gun to get
>> the booze and so I ran up against the policeman who tazered me and I
>> just woke up in a padded place with a door without a door handle and
>> bars in front of the small window.
>
>
> Ah! The days of our youth. ;-)
>
Yeah... climbing up along drain pipes because the key was lost... :-)

or

getting kicked out of a police station because we wanted to stay 
inside... (I swear to the truth of this story) ;-)

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Thomas

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On 2/25/2016 2:00 AM, Sherry K. Shaw wrote:
> Shortly after my 30th birthday, I stopped off at a liquor store on the
> way home from work to pick up six-pack of something fermented.  The
> little pimply-faced ferret behind the counter immediately demanded my ID.
>
> I was absolutely tickled spitless.  I was giggling and grinning as I
> pulled out my driver's license and handed it over.
>
> "Thank you," I said, in the sexiest voice I could manage (given his
> complexion).  "You've made my day."
>
> "Well," he snarled snarkily, "we have to card EVERYBODY."
>
> There is no doubt whatsoever in my mind that the little pimply-faced
> ferret is STILL a virgin.
>
> --Sherry Shaw
>

You really do have to card everyone, though.

Mike

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On 2/26/2016 2:50 PM, Mike Horvath wrote:

>
> You really do have to card everyone, though.

Now, yes.  30 years ago, no.  I've been carded more in my 50s than I 
ever was in my 20s.

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On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 08:45:54 +0100, Thomas de Groot wrote:

> On 26-2-2016 2:29, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 14:27:47 +0000, scott wrote:
>>
>>>>>> In Utah, I remember there being an issue with someone from outside
>>>>>> the US (maybe it was someone from the UK) trying to buy alcohol
>>>>>> with their regular ID - which didn't include a photo.  Utah
>>>>>> requires (or at least required at one time) a photo ID for
>>>>>> purchase.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's easy to solve, you walk round the block, buy a gun, then go
>>>>> back and ask again for a drink :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> hem... don't need the same ID to buy a gun? ;-)
>>>
>>> Nope, no mention in 2nd amendment about requiring photo ID to buy a
>>> gun ;-) Seriously though, it seems in Utah to buy from a "dealer" they
>>> need to run a criminal background check (which I assume means they'll
>>> want to see ID?), but private sales are legal and subject to no such
>>> requirement, so it shouldn't be too hard to come into possession of a
>>> gun without ID.
>>
>> Heh, that's certainly true.
>>
>>
> So, you have the interesting situation where it is easier to buy a gun
> than a bottle of booze; where there is a policeman standing inside the
> booze store but not in the gun store...
> 
> Weird country. Maybe a topic for the brothers Coen.

Yep.

But here where I live, weed is also legal, so I suspect we don't have 
high crime.  Or maybe we do, depending on the meaning of 'high' you 
apply. ;)

Jim



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"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and 
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw

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On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 08:54:48 +0000, scott wrote:

>>>> In Utah, I remember there being an issue with someone from outside
>>>> the US (maybe it was someone from the UK) trying to buy alcohol with
>>>> their regular ID - which didn't include a photo.  Utah requires (or
>>>> at least required at one time) a photo ID for purchase.
>>>
>>> That's easy to solve, you walk round the block, buy a gun, then go
>>> back and ask again for a drink :-)
>>
>> The liquor stores in Utah typically have a police officer on duty.
> 
> Crazy.

Given the number of homeless near some of the stores, it makes sense.

Jim
-- 
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and 
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw

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On 9-3-2016 2:17, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 08:45:54 +0100, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>
>> On 26-2-2016 2:29, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 14:27:47 +0000, scott wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> In Utah, I remember there being an issue with someone from outside
>>>>>>> the US (maybe it was someone from the UK) trying to buy alcohol
>>>>>>> with their regular ID - which didn't include a photo.  Utah
>>>>>>> requires (or at least required at one time) a photo ID for
>>>>>>> purchase.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's easy to solve, you walk round the block, buy a gun, then go
>>>>>> back and ask again for a drink :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> hem... don't need the same ID to buy a gun? ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Nope, no mention in 2nd amendment about requiring photo ID to buy a
>>>> gun ;-) Seriously though, it seems in Utah to buy from a "dealer" they
>>>> need to run a criminal background check (which I assume means they'll
>>>> want to see ID?), but private sales are legal and subject to no such
>>>> requirement, so it shouldn't be too hard to come into possession of a
>>>> gun without ID.
>>>
>>> Heh, that's certainly true.
>>>
>>>
>> So, you have the interesting situation where it is easier to buy a gun
>> than a bottle of booze; where there is a policeman standing inside the
>> booze store but not in the gun store...
>>
>> Weird country. Maybe a topic for the brothers Coen.
>
> Yep.
>
> But here where I live, weed is also legal, so I suspect we don't have
> high crime.  Or maybe we do, depending on the meaning of 'high' you
> apply. ;)
>

I have followed that with interest. Here (NL) we have been discussing 
for decades whether weed should be legalised or not (while the rest of 
Europe looked on with disapproving eyes about our semi-liberal and not 
too successful experiments about it) without coming to a decision. In 
the meantime, weed has been grown into something closer to a hard drug, 
and one might seriously reconsider the initial question yet again.


-- 
Thomas

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