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From: scott
Subject: Re: Pi Day of the century
Date: 16 Mar 2015 11:19:00
Message: <5506f464$1@news.povray.org>
>>> Says the guy who's native language describes 154 as "one hundred, 4 and
>>> fifty."  ;-)
>>
>> And who probably has an address of the form: street, house number,
>> zip-code, town name ;-)
>>
> Of course! It is sooo stupid to look /first/ for the house number and
> only then for the street ;-)

And then once you've confirmed you're at the correct housenumber and in 
the correct street, you find you're in the wrong town! Yes I've done 
this before when going to look at a place to rent...


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Pi Day of the century
Date: 16 Mar 2015 16:11:54
Message: <5507390a$1@news.povray.org>
Am 16.03.2015 um 14:27 schrieb Francois Labreque:
> Le 2015-03-15 01:21, clipka a écrit :
>> Am 15.03.2015 um 03:14 schrieb Cousin Ricky:
>>> At just the right time, we Americans could catch ten digits today.  The
>>> rest of the world will have to wait for the crude approximation in July.
>>>   :-P
>>
>> Uh, yeah... because when it comes to date formats, the Gregorian date in
>> American notation is the pinnacle of mathematical thinking... >_<
>>
>> To get it right, wait for 2031-06-01, 19:30:59.236077... (if I got the
>> math right)
>>
> Says the guy who's native language describes 154 as "one hundred, 4 and
> fifty."  ;-)

Says the guy who speaks a language in which 99 is commonly called 
"four-twenty-ten-nine" :P


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Pi Day of the century
Date: 16 Mar 2015 17:21:33
Message: <5507495d$1@news.povray.org>
On 16/03/15 20:11, clipka wrote:
> Am 16.03.2015 um 14:27 schrieb Francois Labreque:
>> Le 2015-03-15 01:21, clipka a écrit :
>>> Am 15.03.2015 um 03:14 schrieb Cousin Ricky:
>>>> At just the right time, we Americans could catch ten digits today.  The
>>>> rest of the world will have to wait for the crude approximation in
>>>> July.
>>>>   :-P
>>>
>>> Uh, yeah... because when it comes to date formats, the Gregorian date in
>>> American notation is the pinnacle of mathematical thinking... >_<
>>>
>>> To get it right, wait for 2031-06-01, 19:30:59.236077... (if I got the
>>> math right)
>>>
>> Says the guy who's native language describes 154 as "one hundred, 4 and
>> fifty."  ;-)
> 
> Says the guy who speaks a language in which 99 is commonly called
> "four-twenty-ten-nine" :P
> 

Christine, stop pulling Francoise's pigtails! ...and all of you, it's
not Ricky's fault that he was unlucky enough to be born in the US of A

John
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From: Cousin Ricky
Subject: Re: Pi Day of the century
Date: 16 Mar 2015 22:04:02
Message: <55078b92$1@news.povray.org>
On 03/16/2015 05:21 PM, Doctor John wrote:
> Christine, stop pulling Francoise's pigtails! ...and all of you, it's
> not Ricky's fault that he was unlucky enough to be born in the US of A

I'm not even /that/ lucky:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CesHr99ezWE


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Pi Day of the century
Date: 17 Mar 2015 04:10:06
Message: <5507e15e$1@news.povray.org>
On 16-3-2015 16:19, scott wrote:
>>>> Says the guy who's native language describes 154 as "one hundred, 4 and
>>>> fifty."  ;-)
>>>
>>> And who probably has an address of the form: street, house number,
>>> zip-code, town name ;-)
>>>
>> Of course! It is sooo stupid to look /first/ for the house number and
>> only then for the street ;-)
>
> And then once you've confirmed you're at the correct housenumber and in
> the correct street, you find you're in the wrong town! Yes I've done
> this before when going to look at a place to rent...
>
Oh dear! :-)

-- 
Thomas


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Pi Day of the century
Date: 17 Mar 2015 08:15:59
Message: <55081aff$1@news.povray.org>
On 17/03/15 02:03, Cousin Ricky wrote:
> On 03/16/2015 05:21 PM, Doctor John wrote:
>> Christine, stop pulling Francoise's pigtails! ...and all of you, it's
>> not Ricky's fault that he was unlucky enough to be born in the US of A
> 
> I'm not even /that/ lucky:
> 
>    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CesHr99ezWE
> 

'The uploader has not made this video available in your country.'

:-(

John
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From: Cousin Ricky
Subject: Re: Pi Day of the century
Date: 17 Mar 2015 17:26:17
Message: <55089bf9@news.povray.org>
On 03/17/2015 08:15 AM, Doctor John wrote:
> On 17/03/15 02:03, Cousin Ricky wrote:
>> On 03/16/2015 05:21 PM, Doctor John wrote:
>>> Christine, stop pulling Francoise's pigtails! ...and all of you, it's
>>> not Ricky's fault that he was unlucky enough to be born in the US of A
>>
>> I'm not even /that/ lucky:
>>
>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CesHr99ezWE
>>
>
> 'The uploader has not made this video available in your country.'
>
> :-(

Great.  This technology was utilized so that global corporations such as 
The Google could do business in totalitarian countries such as China 
that wished to censor content based on geographic origin, but 
corporations seem to love it more than governments do.

The video is a commentary by John Oliver on the voting rights of 
residents of the USA's territories.

As you may have heard, the USA just celebrated the 50th anniversary of 
the march to Selma, Alabama.  The state violence on that march led to 
the passage of the Voting Rights Act, which assured the rights of black 
Americans to vote--a mere 95 years after the Constitution gave us this 
right.

A fact that sits uncomfortably in the back of the mind of every American 
who isn't a neocon[1] is that there are 4.1 million American citizens in 
Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands, Puerto Rico, and the Virgin Islands 
who still do not have the right to vote for president, and have no 
voting representation in Congress. Even worse, the Americans in American 
Samoa aren't even granted citizenship.  ([1]The neocons aren't even 
aware that we are Americans.)

As a Virgin Islander, I had considered this to be an artifact of the 
Constitution, which devotes all of half a sentence to the territories 
(article IV, section 3).  However, the video shows that this matter was 
decided in the Insular Cases in 1901, using horrifyingly racist 
reasoning.  What's more, even as racist as the Supreme Court was back 
then, it was a patronizing racism, rather than hate-based racism. 
(Science had not yet fully realized that race is a culturally relative 
artifact, not a biological reality.)  The court intended our 
disenfranchisement to be only temporary.


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Pi Day of the century
Date: 18 Mar 2015 02:38:00
Message: <55091d48$1@news.povray.org>
Am 17.03.2015 um 22:26 schrieb Cousin Ricky:

> A fact that sits uncomfortably in the back of the mind of every American
> who isn't a neocon[1] is that there are 4.1 million American citizens in
> Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands, Puerto Rico, and the Virgin Islands
> who still do not have the right to vote for president, and have no
> voting representation in Congress. Even worse, the Americans in American
> Samoa aren't even granted citizenship.  ([1]The neocons aren't even
> aware that we are Americans.)

I presume they do pay taxes, right?

So much for "no taxation without representation"...

> As a Virgin Islander, I had considered this to be an artifact of the
> Constitution, which devotes all of half a sentence to the territories
> (article IV, section 3).  However, the video shows that this matter was
> decided in the Insular Cases in 1901, using horrifyingly racist
> reasoning.

Yeah, the first half of the 20th century was that way. Hitler was only 
the tip of the iceberg.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Pi Day of the century
Date: 19 Mar 2015 06:58:01
Message: <550aabb9$1@news.povray.org>
On 17/03/2015 21:26, Cousin Ricky wrote:
> On 03/17/2015 08:15 AM, Doctor John wrote:

>
> The video is a commentary by John Oliver on the voting rights of
> residents of the USA's territories.
>

I like John Oliver. He is biased in the right direction and he is funny.

Why don't you tell them to go away if they don't want to give you voting 
rights. And apply to be a British Overseas Territory. You could join up 
with the ready made community there. And get free entry into museums. ;-)



-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Andrel
Subject: Re: Pi Day of the century
Date: 27 Mar 2015 17:52:13
Message: <5515d10d$1@news.povray.org>
On 03/16/2015 02:27 PM, Francois Labreque wrote:
> Le 2015-03-15 01:21, clipka a écrit :
>> Am 15.03.2015 um 03:14 schrieb Cousin Ricky:
>>> At just the right time, we Americans could catch ten digits today.  The
>>> rest of the world will have to wait for the crude approximation in July.
>>>   :-P
>>
>> Uh, yeah... because when it comes to date formats, the Gregorian date in
>> American notation is the pinnacle of mathematical thinking... >_<
>>
>> To get it right, wait for 2031-06-01, 19:30:59.236077... (if I got the
>> math right)
>>
> Says the guy who's native language describes 154 as "one hundred, 4 and
> fifty."  ;-)
>
Hi Guys, been busy lately, so not always time to check p.o-t

The story about this as I remember it is that most of GB used to say 4 
and fifty (and some still do) but that some king or queen decided that 
fifty four better fitted what was written.
And that we write 54 because four and fifty was exactly what the arabs 
were saying too, and they write right to left.


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