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From: Saul Luizaga
Subject: Re: ... and so that was Christmas
Date: 2 Jan 2015 12:33:17
Message: <54a6d65d@news.povray.org>
It is my wish that there is no more Crisis too, no more starvation, seek 
people from curable/preventable diseases, no more war (usually for 
profit and/or religion), no more monetary system, that's why I proposed 
the ideas about a natural-Law Resource-Based Economy, but I was rejected 
as a conspiracy theorist, but the facts all over if we pay attention, 
but people like you just want to feel good about an ever increasing 
never-ending problem with uncried tear in their eyes and they go 
mentally masturbate in their small happy corner of the World; keep 
patching a crumbling damn, keep your hean in the sand, that will fix the 
Humanity.


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From: Saul Luizaga
Subject: Re: ... and so that was Christmas
Date: 2 Jan 2015 13:02:32
Message: <54a6dd38@news.povray.org>
And let's not go science to solve our problems, like a scientifically 
based planed society and city with The Venus Project, no, let's go with 
emotional insignificantly small patches that will fix almost nothing 
probably, because of the system itself won't let you, more to the point 
the people living in the Monetary System will not want to, because 
they're too scared of it to risk fall in the same fate as those 
unfortunate homeless people, or think the big scary monster is doing OK 
for them, and for some that it's true, but because big sacrifices had to 
do for them to have such opportunities, in many cases neglecting their 
own life to secure somewhat their offspring future, but hey, I'm just a 
conspiracy theorist, Humanity is OK, everything is OK, is Christmas!


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: ... and so that was Christmas
Date: 3 Jan 2015 04:17:03
Message: <54a7b38e@news.povray.org>
Saul Luizaga <sau### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> And let's not go science to solve our problems, like a scientifically 
> based planed society and city with The Venus Project, no, let's go with 
> emotional insignificantly small patches that will fix almost nothing 
> probably, because of the system itself won't let you, more to the point 
> the people living in the Monetary System will not want to, because 
> they're too scared of it to risk fall in the same fate as those 
> unfortunate homeless people, or think the big scary monster is doing OK 
> for them, and for some that it's true, but because big sacrifices had to 
> do for them to have such opportunities, in many cases neglecting their 
> own life to secure somewhat their offspring future, but hey, I'm just a 
> conspiracy theorist, Humanity is OK, everything is OK, is Christmas!

You write exactly like a conspiracy theorist. What do you expect?

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Saul Luizaga
Subject: Re: ... and so that was Christmas
Date: 4 Jan 2015 02:20:41
Message: <54a8e9c9$1@news.povray.org>
That you all don't stop at a shallow observation and go as you do with a 
religious person that tries to justify their claims, fact check and 
compare to reality, but OK, people here simply don't want to search for 
truth, but their version of it and keep living in "their happy little 
corner of the world", so be it, consequences will give a crap and 
collect expensive on your indifference, my work is just to show you more 
possibilities and it's done.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: ... and so that was Christmas
Date: 4 Jan 2015 03:34:20
Message: <54a8fb0c$1@news.povray.org>
On 04/01/2015 07:20, Saul Luizaga wrote:
> That you all don't stop at a shallow observation and go as you do with a
> religious person that tries to justify their claims, fact check and
> compare to reality, but OK, people here simply don't want to search for
> truth, but their version of it and keep living in "their happy little
> corner of the world", so be it, consequences will give a crap and
> collect expensive on your indifference, my work is just to show you more
> possibilities and it's done.


That is correct. We are a lost cause. Don't waste any more time on us.

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Regards
     Stephen


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: ... and so that was Christmas
Date: 4 Jan 2015 03:37:59
Message: <54a8fbe7@news.povray.org>
Saul Luizaga <sau### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> That you all don't stop at a shallow observation and go as you do with a 
> religious person that tries to justify their claims, fact check and 
> compare to reality, but OK, people here simply don't want to search for 
> truth, but their version of it and keep living in "their happy little 
> corner of the world", so be it, consequences will give a crap and 
> collect expensive on your indifference, my work is just to show you more 
> possibilities and it's done.

Do you honestly believe you are going to convince anybody with such
a condescending, if not outright insulting, attitude?

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From: Saul Luizaga
Subject: Re: ... and so that was Christmas
Date: 4 Jan 2015 11:30:56
Message: <54a96ac0@news.povray.org>
Yes, people that actually use their brain and can be bother to care, 
obviously you and other don't.


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From: Saul Luizaga
Subject: Re: ... and so that was Christmas
Date: 4 Jan 2015 11:32:30
Message: <54a96b1e$1@news.povray.org>
Yeah sure, the opinion of a comfortable and willingly stupid, good luck 
with that.


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From: Saul Luizaga
Subject: Re: ... and so that was Christmas
Date: 4 Jan 2015 12:30:17
Message: <54a978a9$1@news.povray.org>
Correction: not convince, spark a skeptic doubt, that's enough, you go 
and check if it's true, it's not a matter of convincing, it's a matter 
that people think on their own and see it as good because it is so, not 
because I convinced so, it's not a new religion, it's about 
scientifically solving and designing a new for of city and government, 
for Humanity as a single society. It's about stop being a comfortable 
sheeple and start reasoning as an individual.

I even made a previous post to Dr. John and nobody cared to comment 
except him to reject it as a implied fictitious conspiracy theory, well 
it has a website with all the details and welcomes everyone toe examine 
and participate, scientifically, if they're not on some aspects, propose 
the adequate scientific perspective, BUT NO, is just BS, right? right... 
while ironically is probably the "Meca" of all ecologists, tree hugers, 
and science-loving people to put it all in 1 place and build a Future by 
Design, so if you all are a science-people as arrogantly have seen it 
testing each others in knowledge matches, it should be interesting to 
you, at least as a social and scientific phenomenon never tried before, 
but amazingly enough all I find is the indifferent of ignorant people 
from a religious 3rd World Country.

The Monetary System, and yes including "socialist" States, is not a 
stable economy system, is a self-destructive, promoter of greed, 
dishonesty and corruption of all kinds, it works for small economies 
only and to a point, your small happy corner of the World is going to 
the toilet with the rest of us, in an ever increasing accelerated 
process; hecnce the need for change.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: ... and so that was Christmas
Date: 4 Jan 2015 12:33:47
Message: <54a9797b$1@news.povray.org>
On 04/01/2015 16:32, Saul Luizaga wrote:
> Yeah sure, the opinion of a comfortable and willingly stupid, good luck
> with that.

Please stop it. You are being offensive.

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Regards
     Stephen


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