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http://consumers.ofcom.org.uk/phone/numbering/dial-the-code/
Due to telephone number exhaustion, they're asking everybody to upgrade
to IPv6 - er, I mean, they're changing the numbering plan.
Currently, all area codes start with 0. But that means you cannot assign
anybody a telephone number that starts with 0, see? So they're making it
so you always have to dial the area code. That way, we know it's the
area code because it's at the beginning of the number, not because it
starts with a 0.
Rather than, say, add new area codes or something, which would only
affect people assigned these new numbers.
Still, I guess it could be worse...
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On 01/09/2014 20:11, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> http://consumers.ofcom.org.uk/phone/numbering/dial-the-code/
>
> Due to telephone number exhaustion, they're asking everybody to upgrade
> to IPv6 - er, I mean, they're changing the numbering plan.
>
> Currently, all area codes start with 0. But that means you cannot assign
> anybody a telephone number that starts with 0, see? So they're making it
> so you always have to dial the area code. That way, we know it's the
> area code because it's at the beginning of the number, not because it
> starts with a 0.
>
> Rather than, say, add new area codes or something, which would only
> affect people assigned these new numbers.
>
> Still, I guess it could be worse...
So, how many digits in your new number ?
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On 01/09/2014 08:48 PM, Le_Forgeron wrote:
> On 01/09/2014 20:11, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>> http://consumers.ofcom.org.uk/phone/numbering/dial-the-code/
>>
>> Due to telephone number exhaustion, they're asking everybody to upgrade
>> to IPv6 - er, I mean, they're changing the numbering plan.
>>
>> Currently, all area codes start with 0. But that means you cannot assign
>> anybody a telephone number that starts with 0, see? So they're making it
>> so you always have to dial the area code. That way, we know it's the
>> area code because it's at the beginning of the number, not because it
>> starts with a 0.
>>
>> Rather than, say, add new area codes or something, which would only
>> affect people assigned these new numbers.
>>
>> Still, I guess it could be worse...
>
> So, how many digits in your new number ?
It's exactly the same as the old number, except that now you always have
to dial the area code, rather than only needing to dial it from outside
the area.
...then again, everybody has mobile phones now, which don't have an
"area", so...
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On 1-9-2014 21:48, Le_Forgeron wrote:
> So, how many digits in your new number ?
>
Here we have this system already in place for some years now. All
numbers have 10 digits, same as mobile numbers by the way.
Thomas
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On 02/09/2014 08:28, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 1-9-2014 21:48, Le_Forgeron wrote:
>
>> So, how many digits in your new number ?
>>
>
> Here we have this system already in place for some years now. All
> numbers have 10 digits, same as mobile numbers by the way.
>
> Thomas
In the days of local exchanges. We could connect to another phone on it
by dialling 1234. As the system was modernised the local exchange became
larger and to phone anyone in it you would dial 567 1237 and to dial
outside your area 041 567 1234. The post office/BT has tried to keep
this facility but with more sophisticated networks it is an overhead.
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Stephen
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> Due to telephone number exhaustion, they're asking everybody to upgrade
> to IPv6 - er, I mean, they're changing the numbering plan.
You'd think they could just come up with a system that didn't require a
"fix" every few years.
> Currently, all area codes start with 0. But that means you cannot assign
> anybody a telephone number that starts with 0, see? So they're making it
> so you always have to dial the area code. That way, we know it's the
> area code because it's at the beginning of the number, not because it
> starts with a 0.
Seems like only a temporary fix.
> Rather than, say, add new area codes or something, which would only
> affect people assigned these new numbers.
Their previous response to exchanges running out of numbers was to move
them on to 02x area codes with 8 digit phone numbers - but obviously you
can only have 10 of them, and I guess they are all used now. Maybe they
need to introduce 7 digit phone numbers with a 0xxx area code for
medium-large cities. What about 04xx, 05xx, 06xx numbers, are they used
for anything?
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On 2-9-2014 10:26, Stephen wrote:
> In the days of local exchanges. We could connect to another phone on it
> by dialling 1234. As the system was modernised the local exchange became
> larger and to phone anyone in it you would dial 567 1237 and to dial
> outside your area 041 567 1234. The post office/BT has tried to keep
> this facility but with more sophisticated networks it is an overhead.
The good old days indeed. I remember those in France when the area code
was a town name. Ours was Tremblay. You dialled only the first three
letters which were written on the dial, much as letters are now given on
cell phones.
Thomas
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On 02/09/2014 10:01 AM, scott wrote:
>> Due to telephone number exhaustion, they're asking everybody to upgrade
>> to IPv6 - er, I mean, they're changing the numbering plan.
>
> You'd think they could just come up with a system that didn't require a
> "fix" every few years.
You'd think that with everybody moving to VOIP, demand for actual
telephone numbers would be *rapidly decreasing*...
> Seems like only a temporary fix.
Well, yeah... but so is IPv6, technically. ;-)
(Has anybody started using that yet? I know a fair few Linux distros
enable it by default now - and won't tell you how to reliably turn it off!)
> Their previous response to exchanges running out of numbers was to move
> them on to 02x area codes with 8 digit phone numbers - but obviously you
> can only have 10 of them, and I guess they are all used now. Maybe they
> need to introduce 7 digit phone numbers with a 0xxx area code for
> medium-large cities. What about 04xx, 05xx, 06xx numbers, are they used
> for anything?
And to think, the dance school only just replaced their sign with one
that says 01908 rather than 0908...
Still, at least they're not running out of country codes, eh?
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> http://consumers.ofcom.org.uk/phone/numbering/dial-the-code/
>
> Due to telephone number exhaustion, they're asking everybody to upgrade
> to IPv6 - er, I mean, they're changing the numbering plan.
>
> Currently, all area codes start with 0. But that means you cannot assign
> anybody a telephone number that starts with 0, see? So they're making it
> so you always have to dial the area code. That way, we know it's the
> area code because it's at the beginning of the number, not because it
> starts with a 0.
>
> Rather than, say, add new area codes or something, which would only
> affect people assigned these new numbers.
that's the goal.
Now that people always have to dial the 10 digits, you no longer need:
if ( first digit == 0 )
then { expect 10 digits because it's a long-distance call}
else { expect 8 digits because it's a local call}
So you can introduce new area codes that start with any number.
In North America, it used to be that the 2nd digit of the area code had
to be 0 or 1, and the 2nd digit of the exchange couldn't. This was
because the selectors were hard wired to route the call to external
turnks.
In the mid 90s, when cell phones became popular, they removed that
restriction since by then, all phone switches were digital and you no
longer had that hard-wiring restriction. this allowed them to create
new area codes that had any digit in the 2nd position, as well as
assigning local exchanges with 0 or 1 in that position. Giving north
America 800 new available area codes, and each area code 20,000 new
possible numbers.
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QUALITY CONTROL!
>> http://consumers.ofcom.org.uk/phone/numbering/dial-the-code/
>>
>> Due to telephone number exhaustion, they're asking everybody to upgrade
>> to IPv6 - er, I mean, they're changing the numbering plan.
>>
>> Currently, all area codes start with 0. But that means you cannot assign
>> anybody a telephone number that starts with 0, see? So they're making it
>> so you always have to dial the area code. That way, we know it's the
>> area code because it's at the beginning of the number, not because it
>> starts with a 0.
>>
>> Rather than, say, add new area codes or something, which would only
>> affect people assigned these new numbers.
>
> that's the goal.
>
> Now that people always have to dial the 10 digits, you no longer need:
>
> if ( first digit == 0 )
> then { expect 10 digits because it's a long-distance call}
> else { expect 8 digits because it's a local call}
>
> So you can introduce new area codes that start with any number.
>
> In North America, it used to be that the 2nd digit of the area code had
> to be 0 or 1, and the 2nd digit of the exchange couldn't. This was
> because the selectors were hard wired to route the call to external turnks.
^ ^^
in the phone swith trunks
>
> In the mid 90s, when cell phones became popular, they removed that
> restriction since by then, all phone switches were digital and you no
> longer had that hard-wiring restriction. this allowed them to create
> new area codes that had any digit in the 2nd position, as well as
> assigning local exchanges with 0 or 1 in that position. Giving north
> America 800 new available area codes, and each area code 20,000 new
^^^^^^
200,000
> possible numbers.
>
>
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