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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: CPU fan trouble
Date: 17 Feb 2014 03:16:16
Message: <5301c550@news.povray.org>
On 16-2-2014 18:34, Warp wrote:
Thanks Warp, I am going to investigate the possibilities you mention.

In the mean time, this morning, it started up ok, without problems, and 
all temperatures are at normal levels. I really wonder what might have 
happened.

Latest Windows update was on wednesday; the problem on sunday. I don't 
think that would be related. Room temperatures are around 20 degrees and 
even lower at day's start up, so that seems to be ruled out too.

It might have been a small piece of dust stuck on a vital part that sent 
temperatures soaring up to 99 degrees (and that is now totally burned 
up). Puzzling.

I'll keep my eyes open.

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: CPU fan trouble
Date: 17 Feb 2014 03:20:24
Message: <5301c648$1@news.povray.org>
On 16-2-2014 16:53, Stephen wrote:
> On 16/02/2014 3:28 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>
>> The four core temperatures however, are all around 31 degrees Celsius.
>>
>> Any idea is welcome. Thanks in advance.
>>
>
> About a year or so ago, I was having temperature problems with my
> laptop. (There was a broken fan blade which was jamming the fan.)
> TThrottle helped me, keep the temperatures reasonable,  until I found
> out the problem and get it fixed.
>
> http://efmer.eu/boinc/
>

Thanks Stephen. I shall look at TThrottle in any case. This morning the 
machine behaved like it should so I am wondering what happened. It 
probably needed its Sunday Rest. I am again thinking that maybe a piece 
of dust was stuck at the wrong place and needed to be burned down. The 
fan is whole and rotating correctly.

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: CPU fan trouble
Date: 17 Feb 2014 03:45:01
Message: <web.5301cba95221760c7f6b03a40@news.povray.org>
"Nekar Xenos" <nek### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 17:53:23 +0200, Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
>

> > http://efmer.eu/boinc/
> >
> Thanks Stephen!
> This is just what I need. Here in Sunny South Africa I can't render when
> it's hot unless I set Pov-Ray to use only 2 or 3 cores.
>


rely on the duty cycle to throttle PovRay. When in hot countries.


> Hmm BOINC. How about someone doing a BOINC patch for Pov-Ray? =D
> That would be awesome!


Yeh!Show me a Pover that has spare CPU ticks to give to someone else. ;-)


> Getting a little off off-topic here :)
>

It used to be a "hanging offence" at one time. ;-)


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: CPU fan trouble
Date: 17 Feb 2014 04:00:01
Message: <web.5301cedb5221760c7f6b03a40@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:

> Thanks Stephen. I shall look at TThrottle in any case.

It is worth having a look at. It will log your core temperatures and CPU usage
for  at least 12 hours. Then send you an email if they go over a limit, if you
want. I see that there is a newer version out, I should give it a look over.

> This morning the
> machine behaved like it should so I am wondering what happened. It
> probably needed its Sunday Rest. I am again thinking that maybe a piece
> of dust was stuck at the wrong place and needed to be burned down.

It might have been a core stuck in a loop and it just needed a re-boot. You
never can tell.


> The
> fan is whole and rotating correctly.
>

Good and PC fans are easier to change.


http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: CPU fan trouble
Date: 17 Feb 2014 04:09:34
Message: <5301d1ce$1@news.povray.org>
On 17-2-2014 9:56, Stephen wrote:
> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Stephen. I shall look at TThrottle in any case.
>
> It is worth having a look at. It will log your core temperatures and CPU usage
> for  at least 12 hours. Then send you an email if they go over a limit, if you
> want. I see that there is a newer version out, I should give it a look over.
>
>> This morning the
>> machine behaved like it should so I am wondering what happened. It
>> probably needed its Sunday Rest. I am again thinking that maybe a piece
>> of dust was stuck at the wrong place and needed to be burned down.
>
> It might have been a core stuck in a loop and it just needed a re-boot. You
> never can tell.

Indeed. They should do what they are told though ;-)

>
>
>> The
>> fan is whole and rotating correctly.
>>
>
> Good and PC fans are easier to change.
>

> http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php

Not sure about controlling fan speed. It seems to happen automatically 
in situations where external temp (for instance) is high. I shall have a 
look at speedfan too. Thanks!

Thomas


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From: scott
Subject: Re: CPU fan trouble
Date: 17 Feb 2014 04:38:52
Message: <5301d8ac$1@news.povray.org>
> It might have been a core stuck in a loop and it just needed a re-boot. You
> never can tell.

You can get task manager to show the CPU usage for each core 
(Performance -> View -> CPU History -> One Graph Per CPU), it should 
then be obvious if any of the cores are stuck in a loop.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: CPU fan trouble
Date: 17 Feb 2014 06:45:01
Message: <web.5301f5335221760c7f6b03a40@news.povray.org>
scott <sco### [at] scottcom> wrote:
> > It might have been a core stuck in a loop and it just needed a re-boot. You
> > never can tell.
>
> You can get task manager to show the CPU usage for each core
> (Performance -> View -> CPU History -> One Graph Per CPU), it should
> then be obvious if any of the cores are stuck in a loop.

I did not mean it literally. :-)
One of the irritations with my current, i7 laptop, is. Regularly the system'
process will use 13% ~ 25% of the recourses and the machine will be very
sluggish. But you never see a core maxed out.
You do with PovRay, though. :-)


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: CPU fan trouble
Date: 17 Feb 2014 07:17:01
Message: <5301fdbd@news.povray.org>
On 17-2-2014 10:38, scott wrote:
>> It might have been a core stuck in a loop and it just needed a
>> re-boot. You
>> never can tell.
>
> You can get task manager to show the CPU usage for each core
> (Performance -> View -> CPU History -> One Graph Per CPU), it should
> then be obvious if any of the cores are stuck in a loop.
>
Of course. I forgot to check that yesterday. Stupid. ;-)

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: CPU fan trouble
Date: 17 Feb 2014 07:20:56
Message: <5301fea8$1@news.povray.org>
On 17-2-2014 12:40, Stephen wrote:
> scott <sco### [at] scottcom> wrote:
>>> It might have been a core stuck in a loop and it just needed a re-boot. You
>>> never can tell.
>>
>> You can get task manager to show the CPU usage for each core
>> (Performance -> View -> CPU History -> One Graph Per CPU), it should
>> then be obvious if any of the cores are stuck in a loop.
>
> I did not mean it literally. :-)
> One of the irritations with my current, i7 laptop, is. Regularly the system'
> process will use 13% ~ 25% of the recourses and the machine will be very
> sluggish. But you never see a core maxed out.
> You do with PovRay, though. :-)

My i7 PC does that too sometimes. It seems to have to do with some 
arcane Windows process... I checked with the task manager and one or 
another process was active.

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: CPU fan trouble
Date: 17 Feb 2014 08:00:00
Message: <web.5302067d5221760c7f6b03a40@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> On 17-2-2014 9:56, Stephen wrote:

> > It might have been a core stuck in a loop and it just needed a re-boot. You
> > never can tell.
>
> Indeed. They should do what they are told though ;-)
>

Indeed but...



>
> Not sure about controlling fan speed. It seems to happen automatically
> in situations where external temp (for instance) is high. I shall have a
> look at speedfan too. Thanks!
>


instructions, it looks like it would be suitable for slowing down noisy fans.


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