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On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 21:20:11 +0000, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>> I don't think that's Gates' vision. It's the wet dream of the entire
>> software industry. Rather than selling a license that may never be
>> upgraded, they want you to continue to pay "maintenance" fees so you're
>> a source of continuous revenue.
>
> My employer does this. But then again, in the 14 months or so that I've
> worked there, I've released several updates with game-changing
> functionality improvements. And we have several more imminently in
> development.
That makes your employer something of an outlier, sadly.
> MS Office, by contrast, hasn't changed noticeably since the 1990s. I'm
> sure if you search hard enough you can find some new features, but
> they're fairly small.
Yeah, incremental changes are more common. They're low risk, high-
reward, especially with a subscription service.
>> But as usual, Microsoft is bringing up the rear on this, in actuality.
>> Services like Google Apps (for business), Salesforce.com, and even AWS
>> and other cloud "computing platform" providers have been doing this for
>> at least a couple of years.
>
> I thought the idea behind Google Apps was more that you can access it
> from anywhere. It's not like you're paying a subscription just to run
> the software on your local machine.
Yep, same as Office365. Or the new Adobe Creative Suite.
> Similarly, AWS is renting server power, not software.
How well I know.
Jim
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Am 14.01.2014 22:16, schrieb Orchid Win7 v1:
> I can understand MS wanting to push this idea. I'm still puzzled that a
> seemingly independent website is excited about this...
Maybe the catchword here is "seemingly"...
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Am 14.01.2014 20:23, schrieb Nekar Xenos:
> And then there's Adobe CC at $50 per month...
Yeah. My arse.
There are only few things that beat the luxury of being able to skip an
upgrade or two (or three, or four) when I happen to be low on money.
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On 15/01/14 02:18, clipka wrote:
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> Yeah. My arse.
>
By God, you're beginning to sound like an Englishman. ;-)
> There are only few things that beat the luxury of being able to skip an
> upgrade or two (or three, or four) when I happen to be low on money.
>
...and we don't want to hear about them. Might make the natives restless :-)
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> I don't think that's Gates' vision. It's the wet dream of the entire
> software industry. Rather than selling a license that may never be
> upgraded, they want you to continue to pay "maintenance" fees so you're a
> source of continuous revenue.
FWIW annual maintenance fees for engineering CAD/simulation software
have been the norm for at least 10 years.
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> In fact, the
> only reason I'm looking at prices now is because she gets terribly
> confused when the version she uses at work isn't the same as the one at
> home.
I suspect it's similar for a lot of people.
> Indeed, about the only thing I can think of that has recently improved
> in Office is that they finally made Excel's charts not look like arse
> anymore.
Two big ones I can think of (that actually make a difference to everyday
usage) is the pictures / general layout handling of Word vastly
improving, and the table functions in Excel improving (sorting/filtering
data ranges etc).
> I can understand MS wanting to push this idea. I'm still puzzled that a
> seemingly independent website is excited about this...
$99/year for 5 license is not bad value if you actually need 5 licenses.
If they did a $20/year version for 1 license I'd buy it.
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Am 15.01.2014 10:13, schrieb scott:
>> I don't think that's Gates' vision. It's the wet dream of the entire
>> software industry. Rather than selling a license that may never be
>> upgraded, they want you to continue to pay "maintenance" fees so you're a
>> source of continuous revenue.
>
> FWIW annual maintenance fees for engineering CAD/simulation software
> have been the norm for at least 10 years.
Yeah, but they're plaing in an entirely different league anyway.
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> On 14/01/2014 07:23 PM, Nekar Xenos wrote:
>
>> And then there's Adobe CC at $50 per month...
>
> What is it?
Cloud-based version of Adobe Creative Suite (Photoshop, Illustratoe, etc...)
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On Wed, 15 Jan 2014 04:18:53 +0200, clipka <ano### [at] anonymous org> wrote:
> Am 14.01.2014 20:23, schrieb Nekar Xenos:
>
>> And then there's Adobe CC at $50 per month...
>
> Yeah. My arse.
>
> There are only few things that beat the luxury of being able to skip an
> upgrade or two (or three, or four) when I happen to be low on money.
>
That could never work, especially with newer features that may not be
backward compatible.
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On 1/13/2014 10:05 PM, clipka wrote:
> I'm using Office XP here, and I'm sure I'm using much more of its
> functionality than no-brained John Doe. Although I must confess that
> recently I've seriously contemplated upgrading. But - enter another
> reason why the new license model is anything but a wise choice:
I found a copy of Office 2003 mixed in with a bunch of CDs at a thrift
store for less than $5.
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