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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Winamp is dead last ver. 5.666
Date: 27 Dec 2013 15:06:47
Message: <52bdddd7@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 13:12:57 -0400, Saul Luizaga wrote:

> Saul Luizaga wrote:
>> Anyone knows if it's going to be released as open-source for community
>> dev.? I really would like to keep using it and future developments.
>>
>> I use the Free and Lite ver. because it's like the 2.xx vers. but with
>> all the improvements of ver 5.
> 
> Save WinAmp, sign the petition plaese:
> https://www.change.org/en-AU/petitions/save-winamp#share

Of course, it's also possible that, due to licensing issues, they can't 
open source it.

Jim


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Winamp is dead last ver. 5.666
Date: 27 Dec 2013 15:47:03
Message: <52bde747$1@news.povray.org>
>> Ah WinAmp, the best media player of them all until AOL happened to it...
>
> I thought everyone had moved to VLC by now...

I thought VLC was just a buggy video player...


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From: Saul Luizaga
Subject: Re: Winamp is dead last ver. 5.666
Date: 27 Dec 2013 16:31:21
Message: <52bdf1a9@news.povray.org>
Yes, I hope it isn't the case, well, like the song says: "que sera, sera..."


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Winamp is dead last ver. 5.666
Date: 28 Dec 2013 01:11:03
Message: <52be6b77@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 17:31:20 -0400, Saul Luizaga wrote:

> Yes, I hope it isn't the case, well, like the song says: "que sera,
> sera..."

The thing that I wonder about is their MP3 decoder.  Though Thompson (I 
think is who owns the patents on MP3) typically is more concerned about 
encoding than decoding.

Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Winamp is dead last ver. 5.666
Date: 28 Dec 2013 01:12:11
Message: <52be6bbb@news.povray.org>
On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 01:11:03 -0500, Jim Henderson wrote:

> On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 17:31:20 -0400, Saul Luizaga wrote:
> 
>> Yes, I hope it isn't the case, well, like the song says: "que sera,
>> sera..."
> 
> The thing that I wonder about is their MP3 decoder.  Though Thompson (I
> think is who owns the patents on MP3) typically is more concerned about
> encoding than decoding.

Hit send just as another thought entered my mind....

Getting code released as GPL might require permission from multiple 
authors, too - just like POVRay required - though obviously that's not an 
impossible feat, since Chris managed it. :)

Jim


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From: Saul Luizaga
Subject: Re: Winamp is dead last ver. 5.666
Date: 28 Dec 2013 11:56:44
Message: <52bf02cc@news.povray.org>
I was in touch yesterday with DJ Egg from Winamp Support and he wrote 
that MPC-HC & VLC had .dts decoder and other decoders WinAmp didn't 
have, because the authors were impossible to trace back, so maybe they 
can simply take the free/Lite part of Winamp and open source it and 
replace the codecs with those of MPC-HC & VLC also on codecs.com you can 
find many codec packs, probably many of them legal or impossible to 
rtace back, MPC-HC uses about the same codec set as 'K-Lite Mega Codec 
Pack', so I think WinAMp could survive just fine being developed by the 
community, but rumors has it that Micro$oft is trying to buy it, that's 
kinda of bad news, those big companies don't do thing for free or 
listening much to what people want and Windows Media Player it's not a 
good player, full bugs and hanging, so I'm afraid that's the fait of 
WinAmp; we'll have to see what happens and hope for the best.


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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: Winamp is dead last ver. 5.666
Date: 29 Dec 2013 14:25:24
Message: <52c07724$1@news.povray.org>

>>> Ah WinAmp, the best media player of them all until AOL happened to it...
>>
>> I thought everyone had moved to VLC by now...
>
> I thought VLC was just a buggy video player...

A buggy video player that also plays MP3s, FLACs, OGGs, etc...

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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Winamp is dead last ver. 5.666
Date: 29 Dec 2013 15:33:19
Message: <52c0870f$1@news.povray.org>
On 29/12/13 19:25, Francois Labreque wrote:

>>>> Ah WinAmp, the best media player of them all until AOL happened to
>>>> it...
>>>
>>> I thought everyone had moved to VLC by now...
>>
>> I thought VLC was just a buggy video player...
> 
> A buggy video player that also plays MP3s, FLACs, OGGs, etc...
> 

But still f***ing buggy. I get at least two sets of patches a week from
the openSuse servers for the damn thing. For pure audio I prefer Amarok.

John
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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Winamp is dead last ver. 5.666
Date: 29 Dec 2013 15:53:20
Message: <52c08bc0$1@news.povray.org>
>>>> I thought everyone had moved to VLC by now...
>>>
>>> I thought VLC was just a buggy video player...
>>
>> A buggy video player that also plays MP3s, FLACs, OGGs, etc...
>>
>
> But still f***ing buggy. I get at least two sets of patches a week from
> the openSuse servers for the damn thing. For pure audio I prefer Amarok.

Point being, a video player is typically designed to play back one large 
video file. The GUI generally isn't designed for things like playlists, 
shuffle play, EQ adjustments, and all the other sorts of things a 
dedicated audio player is designed for.

Having said that, does anybody remember that time they tried to make 
WinAmp into a video player? Sheesh...


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From: Saul Luizaga
Subject: Re: Winamp is dead last ver. 5.666
Date: 30 Dec 2013 11:58:25
Message: <52c1a631$1@news.povray.org>
I do and it sucked, still sucks; taht's why i use winamp for audio and 
you can use external filters/decoders so it's quite good. Anyway, 1 of 
the developers wrote in Winamp forum that you can still have all the 
features had before it because a video player by selecting them at 
installation time, so you have a win-win: all the improvements plus the 
original functionality.


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