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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Going dark
Date: 21 Oct 2013 16:33:47
Message: <52658fab$1@news.povray.org>
On 21/10/2013 07:52 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> Google "stud finder"

Do NOT try this at work. ;-)


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Going dark
Date: 21 Oct 2013 18:22:38
Message: <5265a92e@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 21:33:49 +0100, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:

> On 21/10/2013 07:52 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> Google "stud finder"
> 
> Do NOT try this at work. ;-)

I wondered how long it would be before someone suggested something like 
that. ;)

Jim


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Going dark
Date: 22 Oct 2013 03:28:29
Message: <5266291d$1@news.povray.org>
>> Do NOT try this at work. ;-)
>
> I wondered how long it would be before someone suggested something like
> that. ;)

It turns out that if you Google just about any Linux command name 
prefixed by the word "man", you get the man-page for that command.

Unless, of course, that command is "trap".

Or "mount"...


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Going dark
Date: 22 Oct 2013 03:43:36
Message: <52662ca8@news.povray.org>
> I assumed it was only *cheap* houses where they do this. (Then again,
> it's not like I'm a housing expert...)

I'm no expert either, but I can think of two reasons why they space 
plasterboard out from the blocks now rather than plaster the blocks 
directly. One is that you can route power cables and water pipes in the 
void (no need to chisel out block everywhere or use thicker cable 
because it will be not be in free air). The other is that it probably 
offers a bit more insulation on external walls.

>> http://www.diydoctor.org.uk/project_images/fixingtoplasterboard/1923_l.jpg
>
> Yeah, we tried that. Trouble is, you don't know where the wooden battens
> are hiding...

You use an awl first (or a very small flat bladed screwdriver) to poke 
through. If you hit wood then you can just use a normal wood screw, if 
you hit air then you screw in one of the above. When you've made the 
small hole it's also worth checking the depth to make sure the above 
plug will fit all the way in. If it's not deep enough then you can clip 
the pointy end off the plug (you don't need it as you've already made 
the hole).

> Like I say, the weight of a mere toilet roll holder was enough to break
> one fixing...

IME the ones where you are meant to leave the screw sticking out 10mm 
and hook something over don't last (especially something that gets 
wiggled about every day). It's much better to only use the screw to 
clamp the item against the wall, it's then the friction between the item 
and wall holding it up, there should be minimal downwards loading on the 
screw/fixing.

If it's only wrecked a small bit of plaster you can usually drill out a 
bigger hole and use the flappy metal clip I suggested (I forget, but I 
think they need a 10mm hole or something to fit through). The benefit of 
those is that they force you to clamp a plate or bracket to the wall, 
you can't just leave the screw sticking out 10mm to hang something on.


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Going dark
Date: 22 Oct 2013 03:47:07
Message: <52662d7b$1@news.povray.org>
>> In the UK fibre-to-cabinet is in a lot of places now, so it's your
>> distance to the nearest cabinet in the street that's important, not the
>> exchange. In most cases people are very much closer than 1200m to their
>> cabinet, so essentially everyone gets those high speeds.
>
> Only where that infrastructure has been installed. ;-)
>
> (Fortunately, that now includes most of MK...)

It seems to be rolling out to most places now, my exchange is pretty 
much last on the list in my area according to the BT website :-( At 
least its status changed from "no plans" to "under consideration" a 
while back, so there is some hope...


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