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On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 21:45:34 +0100, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>> But when you go to sleep, you have blankets and sheets, too. A cooler
>> temperature is usually a good thing.
>
> I find if it's below 20°C or so, I have a still neck the next day.
Interesting, I've not heard of that. :)
>>> Hehe, you Americans and your obsolete measurement systems...
>>
>> It's what we're used to. You use miles rather than kilometers, so
>> you're only partially on a sensible system. We inherited our system
>> from you. ;)
>
> Yeah, well, we're working on it. ;-)
I guess we're just letting you be the guinea pigs. ;)
> Yeah, from what I hear, having a machine with both functions just means
> it does each of them less well than a dedicated device. But hey, it took
> a while to clean it, but it now seems to wash my clothes quite well.
> (Initially they came out dirtier than they went in!)
How long was the flat vacant before you moved in?
>> The counterexample to your CPU example is the Mona Lisa, or a
>> Stradavarius violin. Obviously those items are things that the value
>> has not gone down for over the years.
>
> Thing is, they don't constantly produce new Mona Lisas - in fact, there
> is only one in the entire world. Houses, on the other hand, are
> constantly being built. (Though, again, location counts for something.)
Well, not new Mona Lisas, but certainly new art is being created every
day.
>>> Since this grid-square is half under water, there are no local shops.
>>
>> Some people prefer having the shops farther away, too - because it
>> means you don't have non-local traffic in the neighborhood (which can
>> affect crime).
>
> In MK, what they generally do is that each residential grid square has
> its own bunch of shops. So everybody just goes to their own local shops.
> (And then there are the retail grid squares, which have larger shops
> that people travel to. But nobody lives there.) It's actually quite an
> efficient system - which is why the county council is dedicated to
> getting rid of it ASAP.
Well, with the population, I don't know that you could say definitively
that "everyone" does this, but certainly people would tend to go locally.
>>>> Then, too, there's improvements (as I mentioned before).
>>>
>>> It's a block of flats. You can't really do much to it.
>>
>> Well, yeah, flats are different than a house.
>
> Well hey, like I said, I hopefully won't be selling it for a very long
> time. I haven't finished moving in yet!
:)
Jim
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> Basically each wall is a sheet of plasterboard. So, looks pretty, but no
> sound damping, and you can't make any holes in it. (It'll just snap in
> half.)
In newer houses (<20yrs) all walls are plasterboard (spaced out from the
bricks if it's a supporting wall), so you'll have to get used to it and
learn how to fix stuff to them. It's not like nobody in modern houses
fixes stuff to walls.
You can use these:
http://www.diydoctor.org.uk/project_images/fixingtoplasterboard/1923_l.jpg
or these - especially good if it's old plasterboard that's a bit crumbly:
http://www.ffx.co.uk/Content/images/tools/FORTOG350.jpg
You'd be surprised how much weight they can support. 4 or 6 of them will
hold a big TV *easily*. I use them for everything, shelves, mirrors,
desks, pictures, bookcases etc - never had anything fall down.
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>> You should be grateful with what you have :-P On a good day I can get
>> just above 3 Mb/s...
>
> Yeah, I was under the impression most of the country uses ADSL2, which
> tops out at 8 Mb/s. I'm not actually sure how it's even *possible* to
> have 40 Mb/s...
VDSL2
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On 18/10/13 21:08, Le_Forgeron wrote:
> Now, the usual NRA is up to 6000 m radius large, so the probability that
> you are less than 1200m from it is about 1/25 : 1 out of 25 house will
> be happy of VDSL2.
I live less than 500 metres from the exchange serving me.
> On a city of 20 000 houses, that's not a so big
> number. (800)
>
That assumes a very low population density: 1 person/2,300 square
metres. The density here is 1 person/91 square metres and that's only at
night when everyone is at home. During the day the population (of
Westminster) rises from 236,000 to over 1,000,000.
John (getting a peak of 54 Mb/s atm)
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> Now, the usual NRA is up to 6000 m radius large, so the probability that
> you are less than 1200m from it is about 1/25 : 1 out of 25 house will
> be happy of VDSL2.
In the UK fibre-to-cabinet is in a lot of places now, so it's your
distance to the nearest cabinet in the street that's important, not the
exchange. In most cases people are very much closer than 1200m to their
cabinet, so essentially everyone gets those high speeds.
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On 21/10/13 12:55, scott wrote:
> In the UK fibre-to-cabinet is in a lot of places now, so it's your
> distance to the nearest cabinet in the street that's important, not the
> exchange. In most cases people are very much closer than 1200m to their
> cabinet, so essentially everyone gets those high speeds.
>
Good point. I'm probably less than 50m from the cabinet serving the
block I live in. The Kat (my gf) is even luckier - the cabinet serving
her is just outside the gate to her complex's courtyard and the
buildings were were built with fibre installed. I'm still reliant on
copper; it'll cost a fortune to install fibre in the building.
John
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Protect the Earth
It was not given to you by your parents
You hold it in trust for your children
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On 21/10/13 13:59, Doctor John wrote:
> On 21/10/13 12:55, scott wrote:
>> In the UK fibre-to-cabinet is in a lot of places now, so it's your
>> distance to the nearest cabinet in the street that's important, not the
>> exchange. In most cases people are very much closer than 1200m to their
>> cabinet, so essentially everyone gets those high speeds.
>>
> Good point. I'm probably less than 50m from the cabinet serving the
> block I live in. The Kat (my gf) is even luckier - the cabinet serving
> her is just outside the gate to her complex's courtyard and the
> buildings were were built with fibre installed. I'm still reliant on
> copper; it'll cost a fortune to install fibre in the building.
>
> John
>
Have just checked, I've got FTTC (fibre to cabinet). If I want more
speed, I'll need FTTP. Who's responsible for that, BT or the consumer?
John
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It was not given to you by your parents
You hold it in trust for your children
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On 21/10/2013 10:03 AM, scott wrote:
>> Basically each wall is a sheet of plasterboard. So, looks pretty, but no
>> sound damping, and you can't make any holes in it. (It'll just snap in
>> half.)
>
> In newer houses (<20yrs) all walls are plasterboard (spaced out from the
> bricks if it's a supporting wall), so you'll have to get used to it and
> learn how to fix stuff to them. It's not like nobody in modern houses
> fixes stuff to walls.
I assumed it was only *cheap* houses where they do this. (Then again,
it's not like I'm a housing expert...)
> You can use these:
>
> http://www.diydoctor.org.uk/project_images/fixingtoplasterboard/1923_l.jpg
Yeah, we tried that. Trouble is, you don't know where the wooden battens
are hiding...
> You'd be surprised how much weight they can support. 4 or 6 of them will
> hold a big TV *easily*. I use them for everything, shelves, mirrors,
> desks, pictures, bookcases etc - never had anything fall down.
Like I say, the weight of a mere toilet roll holder was enough to break
one fixing... Not holding out much hope for anything heavier than a
picture frame not breaking the wall beyond repair.
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On 21/10/2013 12:55 PM, scott wrote:
> In the UK fibre-to-cabinet is in a lot of places now, so it's your
> distance to the nearest cabinet in the street that's important, not the
> exchange. In most cases people are very much closer than 1200m to their
> cabinet, so essentially everyone gets those high speeds.
Only where that infrastructure has been installed. ;-)
(Fortunately, that now includes most of MK...)
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On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 19:48:40 +0100, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>> You can use these:
>>
>> http://www.diydoctor.org.uk/project_images/
fixingtoplasterboard/1923_l.jpg
>
> Yeah, we tried that. Trouble is, you don't know where the wooden battens
> are hiding...
Google "stud finder" - that's what you need to ensure that the anchor
isn't being screwed into one of the studs.
Jim
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