On 28/03/2013 5:28 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:20:14 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>

>
> Can't fault him for continuing to do something that works. :)
>

You wouldn't say that if you had seen his act. ;-)
He was big in the 70's and 80's.
Norman Collier

)
>>>
>> That must have been the series when H&D did Hogmanay at the Big Hoose.
>
> H&D?
>
>

Hamish and Dougal.


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On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 20:10:11 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 28/03/2013 5:28 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:20:14 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>
> 
>> Can't fault him for continuing to do something that works. :)
>>
>>
> You wouldn't say that if you had seen his act. ;-)
> He was big in the 70's and 80's.
> Norman Collier

I may have to check that out. :)  I hadn't heard of him before.

>>> That must have been the series when H&D did Hogmanay at the Big Hoose.
>>
>> H&D?
>>
> Hamish and Dougal.

m-/  Of course, how did I miss that?

Maybe time for a relisten. :)

Jim

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On 27-3-2013 12:14, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:

>>>> At the user level it was not fully preemptive. You had to do an
>>>> explicit
>>>> call to allow other programs to get some time too.
>>>
>>> What in the world makes you think that?
>>
>> Because I have written programs at that level.
>> It is a great way to avoid a busy wait on an event in a high level
>> language. Just check if your condition is met, if not pass control back
>> to the scheduler. Repeat until you have something to do.
>>
>> What I remember from those days is that a process could be interrupted
>> by a higher level process, but user programs ran until they voluntary
>> gave control back to the scheduler.*
>
>> *) trying to google things, the wiki page on Exec_(Amiga) claims that
>> linus once mistakingly said that AmigaOS was cooperative. In earlier
>> versions of this page it *was* apparently considered cooperative,
>> because google quotes a text that is no longer there.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exec_%28Amiga%29
>
> "Exec is the multi-tasking kernel of AmigaOS. It enabled pre-emptive
> multitasking in as little as 256k of memory (as supplied with the first
> Amiga 1000s). Exec provided functionality for multi-tasking, memory
> allocation, interrupt handling and handling of dynamic shared libraries."
>
> Sounds pre-emptive to me...

Either you did not understand what I wrote or you are from the younger 
generation that thinks just one source is enough. (a slightly belated 
happy birthday from me anyways)
I said that there are two positions to be found
1) that it *used to be* a cooperative multitasking system
2) that it *is* a pre-emptive multitasking system
You can count on it that I have seen that wiki-page. From that you can 
simply deduce that this did not settle the discussion for me. So quoting 
it as the definitive source that it has *always* been a pre-emptive 
system is a bit silly.


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On 28/03/2013 11:56 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 20:10:11 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>
>> Norman Collier
>
> I may have to check that out. :)  I hadn't heard of him before.
>

Or on the other hand, you may not want to check him out.
He is the epitome of watching weekend TV with your parents and wondering 
if you were from even the same species. ;-)

>>>> That must have been the series when H&D did Hogmanay at the Big Hoose.
>>>
>>> H&D?
>>>
>> Hamish and Dougal.
>
> m-/  Of course, how did I miss that?
>
> Maybe time for a relisten. :)
>
It is just that all those English voices sound the same. ;-)



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     Stephen

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On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 10:09:02 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 28/03/2013 11:56 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 20:10:11 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> Norman Collier
>>
>> I may have to check that out. :)  I hadn't heard of him before.
>>
>>
> Or on the other hand, you may not want to check him out.
> He is the epitome of watching weekend TV with your parents and wondering
> if you were from even the same species. ;-)

Is it one of those costume things? ;)

>>>>> That must have been the series when H&D did Hogmanay at the Big
>>>>> Hoose.
>>>>
>>>> H&D?
>>>>
>>> Hamish and Dougal.
>>
>> m-/  Of course, how did I miss that?
>>
>> Maybe time for a relisten. :)
>>
> It is just that all those English voices sound the same. ;-)

Yeah, that must be it. ;)

Jim

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On 29/03/2013 5:08 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 10:09:02 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>
>> Or on the other hand, you may not want to check him out.
>> He is the epitome of watching weekend TV with your parents and wondering
>> if you were from even the same species. ;-)
>
> Is it one of those costume things? ;)
>

No, he pretended that he was a compere form a northern, working men's 
club (with a flat cap and an "Ee by gum". And a mic that kept stuttering.


>>>
>> It is just that all those English voices sound the same. ;-)
>
> Yeah, that must be it. ;)
>

Bound to be. :-)

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     Stephen

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On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 17:57:14 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 29/03/2013 5:08 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 10:09:02 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> Or on the other hand, you may not want to check him out.
>>> He is the epitome of watching weekend TV with your parents and
>>> wondering if you were from even the same species. ;-)
>>
>> Is it one of those costume things? ;)
>>
>>
> No, he pretended that he was a compere form a northern, working men's
> club (with a flat cap and an "Ee by gum". And a mic that kept
> stuttering.

Hmmm, that might work for us, but probably not. :)  Still, I'm sure 
there's a snippet on Youtube that I can check out if I can get up the 
motivation.

(BTW, I was quoting something with the 'costume thing' remark - I wasn't 
sure if you knew the reference or not)

Jim

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On 29/03/2013 9:53 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> Hmmm, that might work for us, but probably not.:)   Still, I'm sure
> there's a snippet on Youtube that I can check out if I can get up the
> motivation.
>

On your own head, be it.

> (BTW, I was quoting something with the 'costume thing' remark - I wasn't
> sure if you knew the reference or not)

Woosh!, I'm thinking "crinolines", here.


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     Stephen

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On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 23:09:26 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 29/03/2013 9:53 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> Hmmm, that might work for us, but probably not.:)   Still, I'm sure
>> there's a snippet on Youtube that I can check out if I can get up the
>> motivation.
>>
>>
> On your own head, be it.

:)

>> (BTW, I was quoting something with the 'costume thing' remark - I
>> wasn't sure if you knew the reference or not)
> 
> Woosh!, I'm thinking "crinolines", here.

John Cleese, actually - "How to Irritate People" - there's a sketch where 
Michael Palin and .... Oh, rather than try to explain it - this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVmWlAHogfI

:)

Jim

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On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 19:20:46 -0400, Jim Henderson wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 23:09:26 +0000, Stephen wrote:
> 
>> On 29/03/2013 9:53 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>> Hmmm, that might work for us, but probably not.:)   Still, I'm sure
>>> there's a snippet on Youtube that I can check out if I can get up the
>>> motivation.
>>>
>>>
>> On your own head, be it.
> 
> :)
> 
>>> (BTW, I was quoting something with the 'costume thing' remark - I
>>> wasn't sure if you knew the reference or not)
>> 
>> Woosh!, I'm thinking "crinolines", here.
> 
> John Cleese, actually - "How to Irritate People" - there's a sketch
> where Michael Palin and .... Oh, rather than try to explain it - this:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVmWlAHogfI
> 
> :)

That one makes me laugh because my parents are/were like that - I'd be 
watching the one programme I wanted to on a given evening, and that time 
was the time they wanted me to clean my room or whatever.  30 minutes 
later or an hour earlier would've been fine, but they always - without 
fail - would interrupt whatever it was I was watching to tell me I had to 
do something /right now/.

But the funnier one is the aeroplane sketch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJSey8HRUhU

Jim

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