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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Telling a good story
Date: 26 Jul 2012 12:15:29
Message: <50116d21$1@news.povray.org>
On 26/07/2012 03:33 PM, clipka wrote:
> Am 26.07.2012 10:26, schrieb Invisible:
>
>> Another thing: I really /hate/ this idea that every character has to be
>> "flawed" in some way or the audience can't like them. Was Bambi a flawed
>> character? Did the audience like Bambi? Did little children cry when his
>> mother was shot?
>
> /Who/ loved Bambi?
>
> It was mostly children, wasn't it? Children don't need flawed characters
> to love them.
>
> Adults, OTOH, typically have learned that apparently flawless people are
> actually just hiding their flaws, and that you have to be careful about
> befriending such types.

Are you telling me you don't love Bambi?


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Telling a good story
Date: 26 Jul 2012 14:02:12
Message: <50118624@news.povray.org>
Tim Cook <z99### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> On 2012-07-26 03:26, Invisible wrote:
> > Another thing: I really /hate/ this idea that every character has to be
> > "flawed" in some way or the audience can't like them. Was Bambi a flawed
> > character? Did the audience like Bambi? Did little children cry when his
> > mother was shot?

> ...wait, what?

> WAY TO SPOIL THE MOVIE, MAN.

> :(

It was his sled!


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Telling a good story
Date: 26 Jul 2012 15:46:18
Message: <50119E87.6070104@gmail.com>
On 26-7-2012 18:15, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> On 26/07/2012 03:33 PM, clipka wrote:

>
> Are you telling me you don't love Bambi?
>

I don't like the fact that the mother and father are apparently in a 
sort of monogamous relation and that Bambi knows who his father is.

-- 
Women are the canaries of science. When they are underrepresented
it is a strong indication that non-scientific factors play a role
and the concentration of incorruptible scientists is also too low


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Telling a good story
Date: 26 Jul 2012 17:03:58
Message: <5011b0be$1@news.povray.org>
On 26/07/2012 9:02 AM, Invisible wrote:

> 2001 starts nowhere, goes nowhere, and ends up nowhere. It's almost
> /literally/ a series of random shots with no connecting narrative at
> all. (Except the middle part on the space station. /That/ almost makes
> sense.)
>
The book has more of a beginning, middle and end than the film. I've 
just finished listening to the audiobooks of 2001 & 2010.
BTW do you drive through Northampton on the way home from work? On 
Monday or Tuesday I saw someone who looked like you in my rear view 
mirror when I was stopped at traffic lights.

-- 
Regards
     Stephen


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Telling a good story
Date: 26 Jul 2012 17:07:30
Message: <5011b192$1@news.povray.org>
Am 26.07.2012 18:15, schrieb Orchid Win7 v1:

>> /Who/ loved Bambi?
>>
>> It was mostly children, wasn't it? Children don't need flawed characters
>> to love them.
>>
>> Adults, OTOH, typically have learned that apparently flawless people are
>> actually just hiding their flaws, and that you have to be careful about
>> befriending such types.
>
> Are you telling me you don't love Bambi?

Heh, I've never even /seen/ Bambi :-)


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Telling a good story
Date: 26 Jul 2012 17:36:48
Message: <5011b870$1@news.povray.org>
On 26/07/2012 10:07 PM, clipka wrote:
>> Are you telling me you don't love Bambi?
>
> Heh, I've never even /seen/ Bambi :-)

If you don't count the tome I hid behind the sofa. I've not seen Bambi 
either.

-- 
Regards
     Stephen


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Telling a good story
Date: 26 Jul 2012 17:55:01
Message: <web.5011bbfd859dd496352a052d0@news.povray.org>
Stephen <mcavoys_at@aoldotcom> wrote:
> On 26/07/2012 10:07 PM, clipka wrote:
> >> Are you telling me you don't love Bambi?
> >
> > Heh, I've never even /seen/ Bambi :-)
>
> If you don't count the tome I hid behind the sofa. I've not seen Bambi
> either.

how about Dumbo?  He's far more loveable... :)


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Telling a good story
Date: 27 Jul 2012 02:53:59
Message: <50123b07@news.povray.org>
Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> >> If you think the story doesn't /make sense/, you're clearly doing
> >> something very, very wrong.
> >
> > says the dude who wouldn't figure out the narrative arc from monkeys to space in
> > A Space Odissey... -_-

> 2001 starts nowhere, goes nowhere, and ends up nowhere. It's almost 
> /literally/ a series of random shots with no connecting narrative at 
> all. (Except the middle part on the space station. /That/ almost makes 
> sense.)

Just because you refuse to understand the movie doesn't mean it's not
possible (or even easy) to understand.

(And the end sequence is not even supposed to be understood. It's just
random.)


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Telling a good story
Date: 27 Jul 2012 02:55:56
Message: <50123b7c@news.povray.org>
Orchid Win7 v1 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Are you telling me you don't love Bambi?

What is love?

It's a human emotion.

No, it is a word. What matters is the connection the word implies.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Telling a good story
Date: 27 Jul 2012 04:24:16
Message: <50125030$1@news.povray.org>
>> 2001 starts nowhere, goes nowhere, and ends up nowhere. It's almost
>> /literally/ a series of random shots with no connecting narrative at
>> all. (Except the middle part on the space station. /That/ almost makes
>> sense.)
>>
> The book has more of a beginning, middle and end than the film. I've
> just finished listening to the audiobooks of 2001 & 2010.

I think I read the sequel, and that seemed reasonably sane.

> BTW do you drive through Northampton on the way home from work? On
> Monday or Tuesday I saw someone who looked like you in my rear view
> mirror when I was stopped at traffic lights.

I drive /past/ Northampton. I don't actually drive /into/ Northampton.


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