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>> Apparently 1st place on the corruption list means that you are the
>> /least/ corrupt country. Am I the only person who thinks this is
>> counter-intuitive?
>
> No. It wasn't until I checked Nigeria's position that I realised it was
> topsy turvy.
Perhaps "integrity" would be a better heading? Or basically any other
antonym of "corruption". :-P
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> Singapore: 5th for corruption, 72nd for democracy. So you can't buy politicians
> and can't vote for them. What do you do?
>
You do what you're told, and you like it.
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On 14/05/2012 12:53 PM, Invisible wrote:
> Perhaps "integrity" would be a better heading? Or basically any other
> antonym of "corruption". :-P
True.
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Stephen
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Darren New <dne### [at] san rrcom> wrote:
> I don't think Warp gets to complain about politics in his home country any more.
> http://www.worldaudit.org/corruption.htm
> (It *is* Finland, right?)
All the years I have lived in Finland, I don't remember reading/hearing
about even one case of police brutality, excessive use of force, bribery
or other type of corruption. In fact, I have seen many videos (filmed by
bystanders) of police handling eg. an aggressive individual where they
handle it very carefully, in that they do not resort to extreme measures
such as stun guns or, heaven forbid, real firearms. (I even remember one
video where one of the police officers got hit in the face with a stick
and got a bloody nose. They *still* wouldn't resort to stun guns or the
like. They were able to apprehend the guy by fully unarmed means.)
Corrupt politicians are probably not completely unheard of, but really
rare. I don't remember ever seeing some front page news about some
politician having been caught doing something illegal or dubious.
I don't think there's even such a concept as censorship of the press.
(OTOH, the Finnish press, much like that of almost all of western Europe,
is quite left-wing, and engages in heavy self-censorship with certain
subject matters, as well as distorting and inventing stories about some
individuals, especially some politicians. OTOH, there's nothing even close
to eg. Fox News here. And nevertheless, that cannot be technically speaking
deemed as "corruption". At most the Finnish press on the large pressures
*itself* to be left-winged, rather than somebody else, eg. the government,
doing it.)
So no, I wouldn't say there's any significant corruption in Finland.
OTOH that doesn't mean I agree with all of the government's policies...
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- Warp
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And while we are on the subject...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlOfZL_J5fo
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- Warp
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Stephen <mcavoys_at@aoldotcom> wrote:
> On 14/05/2012 12:18 PM, Invisible wrote:
> > On 14/05/2012 12:08 PM, JimT wrote:
> >
> >> Singapore: 5th for corruption, 72nd for democracy. So you can't buy
> >> politicians
> >> and can't vote for them. What do you do?
> >
> > Apparently 1st place on the corruption list means that you are the
> > /least/ corrupt country. Am I the only person who thinks this is
> > counter-intuitive?
>
> No. It wasn't until I checked Nigeria's position that I realised it was
> topsy turvy.
same here.
BTW, best things from Finland to me are the Linux kernel and Elwood.
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On 5/14/2012 9:49, Warp wrote:
> And while we are on the subject...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlOfZL_J5fo
>
Yeah, I saw that too. Very cool!
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
"Oh no! We're out of code juice!"
"Don't panic. There's beans and filters
in the cabinet."
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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> On 5/14/2012 9:49, Warp wrote:
> > And while we are on the subject...
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlOfZL_J5fo
> >
>
> Yeah, I saw that too. Very cool!
priceless!
I wish I was a kid in Finland... watch TV, read comic books, play videogames all
day long until 7 years old and then go to school and try to get the damage
reversed... ;)
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"nemesis" <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> BTW, best things from Finland to me are the Linux kernel and Elwood.
OMG, I'm Scandinavian!
I use Linux, I use the Opera Web browser, I live in the former Danish West
Indies, and my favorite barley-based vice is Vitamalt. And I like ABBA. (Never
heard of Elwood, though. And I'm not going to touch lutefisk.)
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Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> And while we are on the subject...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlOfZL_J5fo
After watching The Young Turks for more than a year, I wonder how my country,
the USA, managed to place #18 in non-corruption. Perhaps they only count it as
corruption if the politicians aren't breaking the local laws? After all, our
politicians are no different from any other commodities in the USA: marketed,
bought, and sold.
At least with yesterday's Supreme Court ruling, the USA is taking that first
tentative step towards joining the civilized world. Obamacare may not be
pretty, but it's the /only/ thing we've got so far.
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