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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Spoken languages in the past
Date: 29 Apr 2012 06:41:45
Message: <4f9d1ae9@news.povray.org>
On 29/04/2012 11:30 AM, Warp wrote:
> Stephen<mcavoys_at@aoldotcom>  wrote:
>> On 29/04/2012 10:24 AM, Warp wrote:
>>> Warp<war### [at] tagpovrayorg>   wrote:
>>>>     Sounds a bit Scottish.
>>>
>>>     I don't know if it's just because I'm tired, but I couldn't stop
>>> laughing at this:
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BncDeMO_en0
>>>
>
>> :-(
>
>> This video contains content from Channel 5, who has blocked it in your
>> country on copyright grounds.
>
>    Maybe this will work:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5Wuwi9ZKxE
>

Nope! but I get the idea from the titles.
When the iphone 4 came out. BBC news sent a recording team to Aberdeen 
to check it out. In the clip below the policeman whose voice it 
recognised was from Dundee. A very different accent from the Aberdeen Doric.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-15475989

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     Stephen


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Spoken languages in the past
Date: 29 Apr 2012 06:46:10
Message: <4f9d1bf2@news.povray.org>
Stephen <mcavoys_at@aoldotcom> wrote:
> Nope! but I get the idea from the titles.

  It's a comedy sketch. I don't think you get the idea without watching
it...

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Spoken languages in the past
Date: 29 Apr 2012 07:01:34
Message: <4f9d1f8e@news.povray.org>
On 29/04/2012 11:46 AM, Warp wrote:
> Stephen<mcavoys_at@aoldotcom>  wrote:
>> Nope! but I get the idea from the titles.
>
>    It's a comedy sketch. I don't think you get the idea without watching
> it...
>

Okay, please send me the files.

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Spoken languages in the past
Date: 29 Apr 2012 07:07:29
Message: <4f9d20f1@news.povray.org>
Stephen <mcavoys_at@aoldotcom> wrote:
> Okay, please send me the files.

  Grab it from here, and reply so that I know I can remove it:

http://kapsi.fi/warp/media/Elevator.flv

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Spoken languages in the past
Date: 29 Apr 2012 07:26:10
Message: <4f9d2552@news.povray.org>
On 29/04/2012 12:07 PM, Warp wrote:
> Stephen<mcavoys_at@aoldotcom>  wrote:
>> Okay, please send me the files.
>
>    Grab it from here, and reply so that I know I can remove it:
>
> http://kapsi.fi/warp/media/Elevator.flv
>

Fine, you can remove it now. Funnily enough I did get the idea from the 
title.

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     Stephen


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Spoken languages in the past
Date: 29 Apr 2012 13:38:24
Message: <4f9d7c90$1@news.povray.org>
On 4/29/2012 0:56, Stephen wrote:
> I would say that Beowulf is Old English so it is not surprising that it
> sounds like a mix between Old Norse and German, it is.

I'm still with Warp on this one, tho. I want to know how they know this is 
what it sounded like. :-)  How does someone know what a language sounded 
like when nobody still speaks it?

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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
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   "Don't panic. There's beans and filters
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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Spoken languages in the past
Date: 29 Apr 2012 16:21:37
Message: <4f9da2d1$1@news.povray.org>
On 29/04/2012 6:38 PM, Darren New wrote:
> On 4/29/2012 0:56, Stephen wrote:
>> I would say that Beowulf is Old English so it is not surprising that it
>> sounds like a mix between Old Norse and German, it is.
>
> I'm still with Warp on this one, tho. I want to know how they know this
> is what it sounded like. :-) How does someone know what a language
> sounded like when nobody still speaks it?
>

I still don't know but remember GIYE ;-P


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From: Kevin Wampler
Subject: Re: Spoken languages in the past
Date: 29 Apr 2012 20:27:10
Message: <4f9ddc5e@news.povray.org>
On 4/29/2012 10:38 AM, Darren New wrote:
> On 4/29/2012 0:56, Stephen wrote:
>> I would say that Beowulf is Old English so it is not surprising that it
>> sounds like a mix between Old Norse and German, it is.
>
> I'm still with Warp on this one, tho. I want to know how they know this
> is what it sounded like. :-) How does someone know what a language
> sounded like when nobody still speaks it?
>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_English_phonology has some info on this.


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Spoken languages in the past
Date: 30 Apr 2012 12:00:16
Message: <4f9eb710@news.povray.org>
On a related note, there are some who doubt a virtuoso pianist of the 
19th century such as Liszt were all the good (despite the account from 
other composers that he would play difficult concerto pieces on first 
sight) because there was no recording.

I've also heard some jazz guys suggesting Bach's music was played more 
relaxed back them, rhythm-wise.  Which is too say, it'd sound quite a 
lot like jazz, rather than with its characteristic rhythmic sameness 
found in recordings.

Forgetting the past and then reimagining it has led to many works of 
fiction as well.  The greek forgot their past mycennean civilization and 
came up with the Illiad to explain the many wars in oral legends and The 
ages of man to explain the bronze obssession of the previous bronze age 
civiliations.

I wonder how future civilizations will reimagine our dark digital age. 
"These guys surely were a quiet lot!"

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From: Patrick Elliott
Subject: Re: Spoken languages in the past
Date: 30 Apr 2012 22:14:57
Message: <4f9f4721$1@news.povray.org>
On 4/28/2012 10:49 PM, Warp wrote:
> Kevin Wampler<wam### [at] uwashingtonedu>  wrote:
>> You might be interested in this reading of Beowulf:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y13cES7MMd8&t=25
>
>    Sounds like a mixture between Old Norse and German.
>
Actually, from some of what I have read there was, until fairly 
recently, a "High German" and "Low German". The low version was very 
close to English, enough that it was fairly understandable.


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