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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: What do we need The Onion for anymore?
Date: 2 Apr 2012 01:11:13
Message: <4f7934f1@news.povray.org>
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On 4/1/2012 9:31, Warp wrote:
> I really wonder if they want to ban the word "atheist" as well.
Yes, but that would raise actual actionable problems.
They also ought to ban "censorship."
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
"Oh no! We're out of code juice!"
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Am 01.04.2012 13:19, schrieb Warp:
> I believe the same is true of the mind: If you never get exposed to
> unpleasant ideas and words, if you are raised in a protective bubble where
> you are shielded from ever hearing them, when you do finally encounter
> them in real life, you may get emotionally scarred.
Or you resort to the only way of dealing with conflicts that you've ever
come into contact with: Draw your gun and open fire.
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Darren New <dne### [at] san rr com> wrote:
> On 4/1/2012 9:31, Warp wrote:
> > I really wonder if they want to ban the word "atheist" as well.
> Yes, but that would raise actual actionable problems.
> They also ought to ban "censorship."
Do you know what would be absolutely marvelous? If they banned the word
"God" for being too controversial and that would, ironically, cause a
huge controversy.
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- Warp
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On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 08:23:33 -0400, Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] san rr com> wrote:
>> On 4/1/2012 9:31, Warp wrote:
>> > I really wonder if they want to ban the word "atheist" as well.
>
>> Yes, but that would raise actual actionable problems.
>
>> They also ought to ban "censorship."
>
> Do you know what would be absolutely marvelous? If they banned the
> word
> "God" for being too controversial and that would, ironically, cause a
> huge controversy.
Now that would be entertaining to watch.
Jim
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> And if they ban the word "dinosaur", are they also going to ban all
> the orders, families, genuses and species that belong to the superorder
> dinosauria? (If "dinosaur" is banned, what stops some teacher from using
> instead something like "theropod", "coelophysoid" or "efraasia" if he
> wants to be clever?) And how about other extinct clades such as the
> trilobites or ammonites? How about "living fossils" such as the coelacanth?
>
The coelacanth is not a fossil. It's 6000 years old, just like all
other creatures.
;)
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>
>> And if they ban the word "dinosaur", are they also going to ban all
>> the orders, families, genuses and species that belong to the superorder
>> dinosauria? (If "dinosaur" is banned, what stops some teacher from using
>> instead something like "theropod", "coelophysoid" or "efraasia" if he
>> wants to be clever?) And how about other extinct clades such as the
>> trilobites or ammonites? How about "living fossils" such as the
>> coelacanth?
>>
>
> The coelacanth is not a fossil. It's 6000 years old, just like all other
> creatures.
>
> ;)
>
I though that the creation was dated to 5000 years... :P
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On 03/04/2012 2:36 PM, Alain wrote:
>>
>> The coelacanth is not a fossil. It's 6000 years old, just like all other
>> creatures.
>>
>> ;)
>>
>
> I though that the creation was dated to 5000 years... :P
Nope, Ussher deduced that the first day of creation began at nightfall
preceding Sunday, October 23, 4004 BC.
And only one Angel can dance on the head of a pin. (They are quite
territorial, you know) ;-)
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Stephen
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On 31-3-2012 17:43, Warp wrote:
> This is *exactly* the type of spoof news article you could expect to
> find on The Onion:
>
>
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/03/26/war-on-words-nyc-dept-of-education-wants-50-forbidden-words-removed-from-standardized-tests/
>
> The scary thing? It's not on The Onion. It's real.
>
> The Onion can stop doing satirical spoofs. They could become an accurate
> news source, and not much would change.
>
> Every time I think my faith in humanity is gone, the stupidity of the
> world somehow succeeds in surpassing itself.
>
Let's be a bit more realistic about that. It is not that these words
will be forbidden in any publication in NY.
What apparently is the case in this article is that someone pointed out
that if you want to test e.g. comprehensive reading the subject of the
test my matter.
If you have a text where cancer plays a role and the person that is
tested just lost a close relative to this disease, it is quite likely
that this person will perform below their capacities. Hence in this case
the test is not only measuring what it should.
A similar case can be made for some of the other words.
--
tip: do not run in an unknown place when it is too dark to see the
floor, unless you prefer to not use uppercase.
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Warp <war### [at] tag povray org> wrote:
> I really wonder if they want to ban the word "atheist" as well.
It reminds me of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdnWwlZCsSw
I think the technical term for that is dehumanization.
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On 3/31/2012 10:43 AM, Warp wrote:
> This is *exactly* the type of spoof news article you could expect to
> find on The Onion:
>
>
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/03/26/war-on-words-nyc-dept-of-education-wants-50-forbidden-words-removed-from-standardized-tests/
>
> The scary thing? It's not on The Onion. It's real.
>
> The Onion can stop doing satirical spoofs. They could become an accurate
> news source, and not much would change.
>
> Every time I think my faith in humanity is gone, the stupidity of the
> world somehow succeeds in surpassing itself.
"In the beginning, God made idiots. That was for practice. Then He
made school boards." -- Mark Twain
That quote comes from over a century ago, too.
Regards,
John
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