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From: Darren New
Subject: Steam pipes
Date: 6 Mar 2012 21:45:30
Message: <4f56cbca$1@news.povray.org>
You know, every game has crates and barrels.
(Crate and Barrel, supplying the video game world since 1972)

But almost every video game has steam pipes too!

Really? Steam pipes on a space ship?

Steam pipes in Black Mesa? WTF are steam pipes for? Distributing heat from a 
central heater, in the middle of a desert?

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   People tell me I am the counter-example.


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Steam pipes
Date: 7 Mar 2012 01:25:43
Message: <4f56ff67$1@news.povray.org>
Am 07.03.2012 03:45, schrieb Darren New:
> You know, every game has crates and barrels.
> (Crate and Barrel, supplying the video game world since 1972)
>
> But almost every video game has steam pipes too!
>
> Really? Steam pipes on a space ship?
>
> Steam pipes in Black Mesa? WTF are steam pipes for? Distributing heat
> from a central heater, in the middle of a desert?

Steam pipes? Really?

Maybe they're pressurized gas pipes, and the clouds of condensing water 
aren't scalding hot but freezing cold.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Steam pipes
Date: 7 Mar 2012 11:21:44
Message: <4f578b18@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Steam pipes in Black Mesa? WTF are steam pipes for? Distributing heat from a 
> central heater, in the middle of a desert?

  Steam wouldn't be the most efficient way of transferring heat from one
place to another. Water would (see district heating). (And if you get a
leak, it would leak water, not steam.)

  Also, those pipes surely are poorly built in all games. They all leak.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Kevin Wampler
Subject: Re: Steam pipes
Date: 7 Mar 2012 15:53:17
Message: <4f57cabd$1@news.povray.org>
On 3/6/2012 6:45 PM, Darren New wrote:
> But almost every video game has steam pipes too!
>
> Really? Steam pipes on a space ship?
>
> Steam pipes in Black Mesa? WTF are steam pipes for? Distributing heat
> from a central heater, in the middle of a desert?

Perhaps they're installed as safety measures to provide an alternate way 
to get around if the normal halls, passages, rooms, etc. become blocked 
due to some sort of crisis or disaster.  It makes sense too, they sure 
seem to be better at providing emergency access and exit routes than 
anything else in those game worlds.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Steam pipes
Date: 8 Mar 2012 04:13:02
Message: <4f58781e$1@news.povray.org>
On 07/03/2012 08:53 PM, Kevin Wampler wrote:

> Perhaps they're installed as safety measures to provide an alternate way
> to get around if the normal halls, passages, rooms, etc. become blocked
> due to some sort of crisis or disaster.

LMAO!

Maybe that explains why there's so many explosive barrels around. They 
put them there in case some sort of alien invasion were to 
hypothetically happen. ;-)


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From: Kevin Wampler
Subject: Re: Steam pipes
Date: 8 Mar 2012 21:08:35
Message: <4f596623$1@news.povray.org>
On 3/8/2012 1:13 AM, Invisible wrote:
> Maybe that explains why there's so many explosive barrels around. They
> put them there in case some sort of alien invasion were to
> hypothetically happen. ;-)

The random medkits ammo and weapons lying around too.  I can only assume 
that in the gaming universe there are regulations based on the idea that 
someday a lone hero will stand between the world and catastrophe, and 
buildings should be designed to give that person that best chance we 
can.  Sort of like earthquake preparedness regulations.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Steam pipes
Date: 9 Mar 2012 01:05:23
Message: <4f599da3$1@news.povray.org>
On 3/7/2012 8:21, Warp wrote:
>    Steam wouldn't be the most efficient way of transferring heat from one
> place to another. Water would

Depends how far you're going, I think. Lots of older buildings in the US 
have steam heating, where the boiler in the basement generates steam for the 
rest of the building.  Shipping it to the next building? Yeah,maybe water's 
better.

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   People tell me I am the counter-example.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Steam pipes
Date: 9 Mar 2012 01:05:59
Message: <4f599dc7$1@news.povray.org>
On 3/7/2012 12:53, Kevin Wampler wrote:
> Perhaps they're installed as safety measures to provide an alternate way to

+! LOL


-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   People tell me I am the counter-example.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Steam pipes
Date: 9 Mar 2012 01:08:10
Message: <4f599e4a$1@news.povray.org>
On 3/8/2012 18:08, Kevin Wampler wrote:
> The random medkits ammo and weapons lying around too.


I was watching Helloween4545's playthrough of Undying (which I highly 
recommend as LOL material if you're ever bored).  At one point in the game, 
you wind up going back in time to a place with a bunch of medieval monks 
with crossbows, and later to a bunch of cavemen.  And he starts pointing out 
that in neither of these scenarios are you likely to find boxes of bullets 
or shotgun shells lying around on the ground. :-)

"Welcome to another edition of Stuck, Jammed, Locked: The Game!"

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   People tell me I am the counter-example.


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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: Steam pipes
Date: 9 Mar 2012 16:07:25
Message: <4f5a710d$1@news.povray.org>
On 3/6/2012 9:45 PM, Darren New wrote:
> You know, every game has crates and barrels.
> (Crate and Barrel, supplying the video game world since 1972)
>
> But almost every video game has steam pipes too!
>
> Really? Steam pipes on a space ship?
>
> Steam pipes in Black Mesa? WTF are steam pipes for? Distributing heat
> from a central heater, in the middle of a desert?

My first duty station in the military was Whiteman Air Force Base, 
Missouri, which at the time (1985) was a missile base controlling 150 
Minuteman II ICBMs.

When I first arrived, the feature that struck me the most was the "steam 
pipe jungle" that extended all over the base.  A great deal of the 
heating was provided by insulated steam pipes running hither and yon. 
The pipes were all above the ground, and so everywhere a pipe and a 
roadway intersected, the pipe went up four meters or so, crossed the 
road in the air, and came down again.  After a month or so it ceased to 
be noticeable.

I have been informed that since that time the heating solution has 
changed, either to buried pipes or something less centralized.

Regards,
John


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