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From: Darren New
Subject: Star Wars revisited
Date: 6 Mar 2012 21:44:05
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http://nomachetejuggling.com.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com/2011/11/11/the-star-wars-saga-suggested-viewing-order/

Seemed like a reasonable idea. :-)


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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Star Wars revisited
Date: 6 Mar 2012 22:00:17
Message: <4f56cf41$1@news.povray.org>
On Tue, 06 Mar 2012 18:44:04 -0800, Darren New wrote:

> http://nomachetejuggling.com.s3-website-us-
east-1.amazonaws.com/2011/11/11/the-star-wars-saga-suggested-viewing-
order/
> 
> Seemed like a reasonable idea. :-)

My wife was reading this to me, and I'm tempted to try that order and see 
how it works.

Jim


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Star Wars revisited
Date: 7 Mar 2012 01:58:30
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Am 07.03.2012 03:44, schrieb Darren New:
>
http://nomachetejuggling.com.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com/2011/11/11/the-star-wars-saga-suggested-viewing-order/
>
> Seemed like a reasonable idea. :-)

Thanks for sharing. Having never seen Eposides I-III, and with only 
little memory of IV-VI remaining (I'm not even sure whether I watched 
all of those three), I just recently thought it was about time I watched 
them all. I guess I'll give the "Machete Order" a shot when I do.


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From: Patrick Elliott
Subject: Re: Star Wars revisited
Date: 8 Mar 2012 00:37:24
Message: <4f584594$1@news.povray.org>
On 3/6/2012 11:58 PM, clipka wrote:
> Am 07.03.2012 03:44, schrieb Darren New:
>>
http://nomachetejuggling.com.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com/2011/11/11/the-star-wars-saga-suggested-viewing-order/
>>
>>
>> Seemed like a reasonable idea. :-)
>
> Thanks for sharing. Having never seen Eposides I-III, and with only
> little memory of IV-VI remaining (I'm not even sure whether I watched
> all of those three), I just recently thought it was about time I watched
> them all. I guess I'll give the "Machete Order" a shot when I do.

Which isn't much help if you are dealing with the "extended-extended" 
version, which covers "The Clone Wars" cartoon series, which is sort of, 
"Ok, how exactly did Anakin go that wrong, and why didn't the Jedi 
notice?". Then, if you want to know who Sideous/Palpatine really is, you 
need to read the book Plegues, where its reveals that this name, which 
he drops in the third movie, was in fact Palpatine's own master, and why 
it is that there seemed to be a bit more than two sith around 
(especially in the cartoon).

And, well.. Past that, it might help to read Bane (I haven't yet), to 
understand how the sith went from having their own batch of star 
systems, and an empire, to "there are only ever two, master and 
apprentice, no more". Not to mention quite a few "old republic" books, 
that cover various things from an even longer time ago, and hint at how 
the sith "become" sith, instead of just corrupted Jedi.

That is, if you want to know all the "in between" details that flesh out 
what is going on. It seems, even the darkside itself might not be what 
it seemed to be, or what I previously concluded from reading something 
else, but may be linked to an entity so old it may have been working 
corruption through the entire span of the republic, and possibly even 
25,000 years back, or more (roughly 5,000 years after the decline of the 
Celestials), before the Rakata had even used the dark side to enslave a 
large portion of the galaxy (including most/all of the worlds in the 
republic), only to suffer some massive plague, which robbed them of the 
ability to use the very power they employed to keep control.

The "Fate of the Jedi" books are proving interesting, but the last one, 
which involves the final details of what this being is, and how its 
linked to the dark side, is in the next one, which isn't out until the 
13th of this month (sigh...).

Taken by themselves, the movies definitely have problems. Taken as a 
whole, including the books in the "expanded universe".. its nice to have 
those details in the first three movies filled in.


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Star Wars revisited
Date: 8 Mar 2012 07:53:15
Message: <4f58abbb$1@news.povray.org>
Am 08.03.2012 06:37, schrieb Patrick Elliott:

>> Thanks for sharing. Having never seen Eposides I-III, and with only
>> little memory of IV-VI remaining (I'm not even sure whether I watched
>> all of those three), I just recently thought it was about time I watched
>> them all. I guess I'll give the "Machete Order" a shot when I do.
>
> Which isn't much help if you are dealing with the "extended-extended"
> version, which covers "The Clone Wars" cartoon series, which is sort of,
> "Ok, how exactly did Anakin go that wrong, and why didn't the Jedi
> notice?". Then, if you want to know who Sideous/Palpatine really is, you
> need to read the book Plegues, where its reveals that this name, which
> he drops in the third movie, was in fact Palpatine's own master, and why
> it is that there seemed to be a bit more than two sith around
> (especially in the cartoon).
>
> And, well.. Past that, it might help to read Bane (I haven't yet), to
> understand how the sith went from having their own batch of star
> systems, and an empire, to "there are only ever two, master and
> apprentice, no more". Not to mention quite a few "old republic" books,
> that cover various things from an even longer time ago, and hint at how
> the sith "become" sith, instead of just corrupted Jedi.
>
> [...]

Um... I don't intend to write a thesis about it - I just want to watch 
(and hopefully enjoy) the movies :-P


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From: Patrick Elliott
Subject: Re: Star Wars revisited
Date: 9 Mar 2012 23:21:56
Message: <4f5ad6e4$1@news.povray.org>
On 3/8/2012 5:53 AM, clipka wrote:
> Am 08.03.2012 06:37, schrieb Patrick Elliott:
>
>>> Thanks for sharing. Having never seen Eposides I-III, and with only
>>> little memory of IV-VI remaining (I'm not even sure whether I watched
>>> all of those three), I just recently thought it was about time I watched
>>> them all. I guess I'll give the "Machete Order" a shot when I do.
>>
>> Which isn't much help if you are dealing with the "extended-extended"
>> version, which covers "The Clone Wars" cartoon series, which is sort of,
>> "Ok, how exactly did Anakin go that wrong, and why didn't the Jedi
>> notice?". Then, if you want to know who Sideous/Palpatine really is, you
>> need to read the book Plegues, where its reveals that this name, which
>> he drops in the third movie, was in fact Palpatine's own master, and why
>> it is that there seemed to be a bit more than two sith around
>> (especially in the cartoon).
>>
>> And, well.. Past that, it might help to read Bane (I haven't yet), to
>> understand how the sith went from having their own batch of star
>> systems, and an empire, to "there are only ever two, master and
>> apprentice, no more". Not to mention quite a few "old republic" books,
>> that cover various things from an even longer time ago, and hint at how
>> the sith "become" sith, instead of just corrupted Jedi.
>>
>> [...]
>
> Um... I don't intend to write a thesis about it - I just want to watch
> (and hopefully enjoy) the movies :-P
lol Yeah, well.

Its still interesting to read some bits, just to get an idea how some 
holes are filled in, like Palpatine's past. Stuff following the end of 
the last movie.. is a mess, since a chunk of the story is in the games 
that got made, and I don't think they ever made books to cover those 
events, even though they are sometimes mentioned in the books. Kind of 
like Revan. It doesn't cover the game's part, just what happened after 
he got back (and the Jedi decided that his ideas about why and how he 
was saved from the dark where "too dangerous", and, "not trustworthy"). 
The order definitely had a major blind spot, in some respects.


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